Raise up, ye heroes!

**Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:57 pm**

I only recently registered for the forum, although I've been reading it on and off for about a year. I'm on a number of other fora or discussion lists for music, crime fiction and cult TV, and I have to say this one is one of the most eclectic and good-humoured one I've come across. I like the idea of being able to chat about sport, books and films, as well as my favourite band -- I've already got loads of ideas for books and CDs to look out for

The Mods here appear to be fairly laid-back and I'm of the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' view. What it boils down to, though, is that it's their playground . . .

The music lists or fora I'm on appear to be pretty civilised -- maybe there's a lot of self-moderating going on

I'm on an Oysterband discussion list which can be fairly heavy traffic and the Mod there is fairly light touch. He sighs loudly when the cheese puns get out of hand. But otherwise it all runs very nicely. Two potential spats in the past two years were taken off at the kneecaps very swiftly by members of the group.

Of course there will be rows and misunderstandings. And that's when the Mods step in and crack their knuckles :lol:

**Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:13 pm**

Eric V wrote:I think just letting the oldest stuff fall off is not a good idea. There is a lot of history to Medusa, those who have been here, and then went away. DzM and others have a lot to be proud of. I trust the Mods (funny I'm getting an entirely different picture in my head of them with that name) to weed out the less significant strands and preserve the more significant. I mean lets face it, there's a lot of "me too". And if someone wants to take a conversation way off topic in some band specific grouping, I see nothing wrong with moving it to Misc. Hell, half of us that would care tend to hang out there a lot anyway. I love Misc. I like being able to pop in to the Heather thread to say hi, specifically and publically, because I think its a nice thing to do.... and I like to see that Andy is doing the same because we like Heather. I like offering up to the whole group odd things that happen to me from time to time in the Thread for things That Don't Deserve Threads, and like that occasionally someone has something to say about it. I like mixing it up with some of you on the various political threads, despite my occasional leaving in a huff. I get a lot out of it, and its good to hear different views than I normally hear. Medusa is a really incredible little forum with many dedicated and interesting constituents who seem to like the Pogues and each other a whole lot. The only thing I can think of is that it might need more cowbell. Yes... definitely more cowbell!

I agree pretty much with Eric, I like writing little snippets of my life on the Threads For Things That Don't Deserve Threads Thread and I enjoy having my own thread for if anyone wants to come and ask me questions, on the other hand they could always PM me but I want people on the site to know a bit of what I'm about.

It's also a bit of an outlet for my emotions as you've probably gathered, all my friends are married with children now and I don't see them as often as I'd like, so me and my partner are sharing the same friends, it's nice to have a different set of friends that I can go and let off steam to every now and again.

**Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:45 pm**

So you see, everyone, in this crazy mixed up world where most media is owned by money-grubbing, lowest-common-denominator-fixated, run-of-the-mill, flavour-of-the-week trash, we have enjoyed what might very well be a last bastion of ....I don't know what.... but I know it when I see it, quality. And I like to think that one day, when Heather is married with children, and has moved on with new friends, a great job, and is not moaning quite so much, that some 14 year old kid who isn't quite as much as a gutter rat as IMLPH, but maybe just a little bit, will stumble onto Medusa and discover ...yes, the most complete set of information about the Pogues..... but also the Great Ticket Rip-Off of Washington 2005, the great wind that was Fintan (before he became wildly famous), the great secret Pocket of Walshy, the booting of IMLPH, the great friends who tell each other what they listen to, the opinions on teeth and booze, the "meet ups", the commentary of the Pogues Whistle Player, the anticipation of who-besides-the-Saw Doctors would be opening on the next tour, and where your going on holiday, and what's your favorite cheese and how'd you bloody know. And who thought what Pogues lyrics were what. And all laugh, and swear we would all walk hand in hand down Broadway if we could ..... and living vacariously through those that did. And comfort a friend who has ailing family, or who is in a bit too deep with alcohol, or is just having a bad day. And all of this, all over the world. That, is what I think everyone who stumbles onto this site should see. And ...that there was a Heather, and for one brief shining moment she had her own thread, and people liked her, and went with the absurdly civil movement to elevate her to stardom. And if they get it, great, and if they don't, they don't become a member and look back a couple thousand post later and think thoughts similar to the ones I just expressed above. Cheers everyone; I'd have one for each of you, but I have to function tomorrow. Much love, EV.

**Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:49 pm**

I think you bring up a very good point Heather. There are members here who I've had the great pleasure of meeting in New York, and there are many whom I'd like to someday meet...preferrably taking in the experience of the band we all admire. I consider all of you friends in a round-about way.
Regarding the thread manipulating, I got bent outta' shape once, but I soon realized that this isn't my house. I'm just a guest.
Aside from the touring, which has been thankfully increasing in frequency, we'd all love to start a "what do you think of the new song/album thread." And if that ever happens, fantastic, but until that day there are lull times between tours where there are only miscellaneous things to discuss so I really don't mind these threads.
Overall, I have zero problems with this fora. It is the first one I have ever participated in and over a year later I'm still here. That alone speaks for the quality of Medusa. Cheers to the Skipper, The Professor, and Mary Anne

I had to edit.....all of you folks too!

**Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:16 pm**

I like the forum just the way it is.

**Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:41 am**

I know this is a pogues messageboard and I'm a big fan of the band . There are different sections devoted to different topics. I thought the misc section was a place where you could talk about anything and everything(it is on most boards) I admit some of the threads I created where a bit out there and off topic but I also think it's pretty lame when a admin views something he or she doesn't like or a suject that is deemed to far off subject and deletes it without any warning. The Pogues are a punk band and there is nothing punk about censorship.

**Wed Sep 27, 2006 4:37 pm**

Eric V wrote:So you see, everyone, in this crazy mixed up world where most media is owned by money-grubbing, lowest-common-denominator-fixated, run-of-the-mill, flavour-of-the-week trash, we have enjoyed what might very well be a last bastion of ....I don't know what.... but I know it when I see it, quality. And I like to think that one day, when Heather is married with children, and has moved on with new friends, a great job, and is not moaning quite so much, that some 14 year old kid who isn't quite as much as a gutter rat as IMLPH, but maybe just a little bit, will stumble onto Medusa and discover ...yes, the most complete set of information about the Pogues..... but also the Great Ticket Rip-Off of Washington 2005, the great wind that was Fintan (before he became wildly famous), the great secret Pocket of Walshy, the booting of IMLPH, the great friends who tell each other what they listen to, the opinions on teeth and booze, the "meet ups", the commentary of the Pogues Whistle Player, the anticipation of who-besides-the-Saw Doctors would be opening on the next tour, and where your going on holiday, and what's your favorite cheese and how'd you bloody know. And who thought what Pogues lyrics were what. And all laugh, and swear we would all walk hand in hand down Broadway if we could ..... and living vacariously through those that did. And comfort a friend who has ailing family, or who is in a bit too deep with alcohol, or is just having a bad day. And all of this, all over the world. That, is what I think everyone who stumbles onto this site should see. And ...that there was a Heather, and for one brief shining moment she had her own thread, and people liked her, and went with the absurdly civil movement to elevate her to stardom. And if they get it, great, and if they don't, they don't become a member and look back a couple thousand post later and think thoughts similar to the ones I just expressed above. Cheers everyone; I'd have one for each of you, but I have to function tomorrow. Much love, EV.

What a great post Eric V

**Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:45 pm**

Cheers, Eric. Great post.

Stay the course, DzM....

**Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:34 pm**

We're trying something new here.

The Speaker's Corner is largely unmoderated. We'll step in if somebody is abusive or horrifically offensive, but otherwise we won't be our official selves here. The life-span of idle threads has been reduced to three months though. It's up to you guys to tell other forum users if their behavior here is inappropriate.

The Misc forum will be maintained as it was before. There is light moderation that will happen. Unlike before, though, wildly off-topic or (in our opinions) otherwise inappropriate threads and/or posts won't get deleted. Instead they'll be moved to Speaker's Corner.

We'll give this system a try for a bit. If it works, great. We'll adjust if it doesn't.

Please note that this isn't intended to stop the discussion here. The PMs and I are still interested in hearing your opinions on our civic responsibilities as well as those of the fora community. Please keep thinking about what you want to see from Medusa and tell us about it.

**Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:29 pm**

if it ain,t broke....don,t fix it.......seriously i have not had a post "terminated" and i would feel pissed if one was, however if i was personally verbally attacking some other Medusan i would accept it being blocked but herein lies the problem...what i think is acceptable someone else might not and viceversa.

Keep up the good work

**Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:41 pm**

DzM wrote:We're trying something new here.

The Speaker's Corner is largely unmoderated. We'll step in if somebody is abusive or horrifically offensive, but otherwise we won't be our official selves here. The life-span of idle threads has been reduced to three months though. It's up to you guys to tell other forum users if their behavior here is inappropriate.

The Misc forum will be maintained as it was before. There is light moderation that will happen. Unlike before, though, wildly off-topic or (in our opinions) otherwise inappropriate threads and/or posts won't get deleted. Instead they'll be moved to Speaker's Corner.

great idea, BUT actually what is the difference between "Misc" and "Speaker's Corner" ? Only the way you moderate'em? I'm a little bit confused

**Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:16 pm**

left wrote:great idea, BUT actually what is the difference between "Misc" and "Speaker's Corner" ? Only the way you moderate'em? I'm a little bit confused

We're still figuring this out. The basic idea is that Misc contains things that have little (or nothing) to do with our favorite band, but are never-the-less interesting and deserve to be preserved (and protected) for a while. Speaker's Corner is for more chaotic or less needing or preservation stuff. Beyond that we're figuring things out.

A good reference will be to check the two in a few days and see what has shaken out of Misc and into Speaker's Corner. That'll give you a feel for how the PMs and Janitors feel things should be split (right now we're all taking a whack at things - it's a little chaotic).

**Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:26 am**

Eric V wrote:So you see, everyone, in this crazy mixed up world where most media is owned by money-grubbing, lowest-common-denominator-fixated, run-of-the-mill, flavour-of-the-week trash, we have enjoyed what might very well be a last bastion of ....I don't know what.... but I know it when I see it, quality...

Well, Eric V, THAT was a beautiful post. Tears welled.

**Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:48 am**

Geesh! I have been offline for 10 or so days (thanks to halted service by our Internet provider.) I now return to find all hell has broken loose.

Others have expressed more eloquently than I can what this site means for many. Suffice it to say that I like this place just fine the way it is. Thanks, DZM, for all you and the others do!!

**Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:47 am**

DzM wrote:The Speaker's Corner is largely unmoderated. We'll step in if somebody is abusive or horrifically offensive, but otherwise we won't be our official selves here. The life-span of idle threads has been reduced to three months though. It's up to you guys to tell other forum users if their behavior here is inappropriate.

This is a really good idea, thanks DZM.

Raise up, ye heroes!

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