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The Blackbird....

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Post Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:12 am

I was checking out another Pogues-related site where there is quite an analysis of Pogues songs. When ‘Thousands…’ is being discussed there is some question about “The Blackbird”. It's speculated that it refers to either the Irish ballad ‘The Blackbird’ or the Beatles ‘Blackbird’. I’m not sure if this has been asked on this forum, but I'm just wondering....

Philip, would you give us the definitive answer?
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Post Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:21 am

this is the wrong place for this reply i know: but, does anybody remember that story mcartney tells about the writing of Blackbird?
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Post Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:30 am

cougar wrote:this is the wrong place for this reply i know: but, does anybody remember that story mcartney tells about the writing of Blackbird?


No, but look here. http://www.pogues.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=26173&highlight=blackbird#26173
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Post Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:40 am

right. i remember seeing that - thank you Eric. paul's statement of how he came to write that song (or i should say how he wrote that "riif" - if you will-) is pretty neat. ive fallen into that realm myself.
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Post Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:55 pm

Aineen wrote:I was checking out another Pogues-related site where there is quite an analysis of Pogues songs. When ‘Thousands…’ is being discussed there is some question about “The Blackbird”. It's speculated that it refers to either the Irish ballad ‘The Blackbird’ or the Beatles ‘Blackbird’. I’m not sure if this has been asked on this forum, but I'm just wondering....

Philip, would you give us the definitive answer?


For the record, Behan is known to have loved the trad tune "The Blackbird" and did indeed dance to it on at least one occasion, albeit on Grafton Street, Dublin, not Broadway, New York.

As the four note acoustic guitar figure which plays counterpoint to the line (after "broke the silence" on Shane's version) quotes from neither the Beatles nor the Irish trad tune, you may wish to conclude that there is in fact no "definitive answer", the uneasy ambiguity of the line being part of its purpose.
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Post Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:21 pm

philipchevron wrote:As the four note acoustic guitar figure which plays counterpoint to the line (after "broke the silence" on Shane's version) quotes from neither the Beatles nor the Irish trad tune, you may wish to conclude that there is in fact no "definitive answer", the uneasy ambiguity of the line being part of its purpose.


So,.... you forgot why you wrote it? Didn't you! :wink:
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Post Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:25 pm

Eric V wrote:
philipchevron wrote:As the four note acoustic guitar figure which plays counterpoint to the line (after "broke the silence" on Shane's version) quotes from neither the Beatles nor the Irish trad tune, you may wish to conclude that there is in fact no "definitive answer", the uneasy ambiguity of the line being part of its purpose.


So,.... you forgot why you wrote it? Didn't you! :wink:


That's certainly another conclusion you may choose to draw, though as for myself, I couldn't possibly comment.
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Post Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:03 pm

philipchevron wrote: as for myself, I couldn't possibly comment.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:10 am

Eric V wrote:So,.... you forgot why you wrote it? Didn't you! :wink:


Jaysus, the brass neck of some people! :shock:

I think Walshy would class a question like that as BOLD :wink:
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Post Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:05 am

soulfinger wrote:
Eric V wrote:So,.... you forgot why you wrote it? Didn't you! :wink:


Jaysus, the brass neck of some people! :shock:

I think Walshy would class a question like that as BOLD :wink:


I think she would say something about "the cheek" of it. :wink:
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