phro37 wrote:it's plastered all over my new home in north texas (bush country). you can't drive two miles without seeing a car dealership (the fact that i may soon be working for one of them aside). capitalism is one thing, but, like patriotism, there shoud be freakin limits.
CPoguesFan wrote:The only problem with that line of logic is that we are in a situation not unlike the 1970's during the gas crisis. For the past two decades American car companies have been pumping out the most fuel inefficient cars imaginable. Most people are stuck now with a car that uses too much fuel and we couldn't trade it in for a decent price if we tried. This is exactly what happened with all of the "muscle" cars of the 60's and 70's. They became obsolete because of their insatiable need for gas and most people trashed them - now they are just collector's items.
The American people do not deserve the entire blame on this one. Management of the motor companies lacked foresight and chose greed over common sense. They refused to give up the SUV's because the profit margin was so high and instead chose to lower the fuel efficiency of cars rather than raise it.
I see this as a possible opportunity if played correctly. Use the best minds to create the best cars for now and in the future and manufacture only those cars. As far as the old gas guzzlers - Warren Buffet had the best idea, have a program where people can voluntarily take their car to a recycling area (for a substantial tax break), crush the car and recycle the steel - as well as any other usable car parts. That gets those gas hog cars off the road and reuses what is necessary.
This has been my first disappointment with Obama, why are the contracts with AIG's executive sacred, but UAW worker's contracts are so easily scrapped? One group crippled the global economy, the other group just did what management told them to do.
territa wrote:I agree with you about Toyota. But their stance on unions is a little stronger than creating an environment that would make unions unnecessary. Toyota does not tolerate unions, and will not build a plant in a town or state that will not support them on that point. They did not have a problem finding workers for the plant here in San Antonio, which has an anti-union attitude (as does Texas, generally).
Clash Cadillac wrote:OOBama - International Man of History
Cdn Steve wrote:Clash Cadillac wrote:OOBama - International Man of History
Daily Show Apr 07 was right on the money.... "I think you might be confusing 'tyranny' with 'losing'..."
http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart/#clip158274
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territa wrote:Cdn Steve wrote:Clash Cadillac wrote:OOBama - International Man of History
Daily Show Apr 07 was right on the money.... "I think you might be confusing 'tyranny' with 'losing'..."
http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart/#clip158274
love it
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Clash Cadillac wrote:I must be in the same region. Try these links...
OOBama - International Man of History
Baracknophobia
Benno wrote:here's an AWESOME article on reddit's front page about what the Obama DOJ is up to..
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/ ... index.html
Benno wrote:it's a good point Philip, i think that we can safely say that the true boss(es) never retired
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