NW3

[duncan disorderly]

I like that Phil !........The POGUES created " a body of work so spectacular that here are its rejects!""
That s how it is! I am blown away again. Long live the Pogues.
I hadnt been on this forum for a while until the box set spurred me to come back. Once a Pogues fan always a Pogues fan .
I am familiar with The Popes versions of these songws and i can honesly say i prefer these,NW3 and Donegal Express in particular they are more intricate but sound more basic if you know what i mean . Probably not , well I do , but i cant explain it >More acoustic maybe.
Gotts go now i have been having good fun playing along to the box set . ( F***ing hell Sick Bed is fast on here fron GLasgow87!) I need a bit more practice . Is Lust for VOmit a bit like Pink Panther?

[philipchevron]

Is Lust for VOmit a bit like Pink Panther?

We taught Hank Mancini everything he knew!

[Kilmichael]

Is Lust for VOmit a bit like Pink Panther?

Pink Panther?! Nah, it's more like the theme from The Sweeney, mate...

[TheKing]

Has anyone figured out the chords for nw3? Ta!

[DrugProwlingWolf]

I think it's pretty telling about Shane's post-Pogues career that most of his, well, good songs first took form on some level as Pogues numbers. More telling still is that outside of perhaps Aisling, where the man sounds like he's falling asleep at the end of every verse, they're all a lot better.

Seriously, damn, NW3 is awesome.

[Kilmichael]

I think it's pretty telling about Shane's post-Pogues career that most of his, well, good songs first took form on some level as Pogues numbers. More telling still is that outside of perhaps Aisling, where the man sounds like he's falling asleep at the end of every verse, they're all a lot better.

Seriously, damn, NW3 is awesome.

I have to agree that Aisling is the one exception to the Pogues versions being better than the Popes versions of these tracks. Imho the version on 'The Snake' is better than the Pogues one and probably Shane's best post-Pogues track - maybe because both Jem and Spider played on that version (I think?).

And NW3 just gets better with each listen. Pure class.

[Mr. Joyce]

I just got the box set delivered 2 hours ago, and have listened to "NW3" 4 or 5 times - I never heard it before, but wow, what a great song.

[Mark_Wafc]

NW3 is class, utter class.

When did Shane write it? For the Hells Ditch album or was it around earlier?

[philipchevron]

NW3 is class, utter class.

When did Shane write it? For the Hells Ditch album or was it around earlier?

Sometime between Summer 1987 and October 1987. It just missed the Fall From Grace album (and. of course, every subsequent album)

[Mark_Wafc]

Cheers, i've got to say it sounds very much like one of Shanes earlier songs

[fluke]

Has anyone figured out the chords for nw3? Ta!

I checked this version briefly for you and I think it's quite right: http://www.azchords.com/p/pogues-tabs-5469/mothermochro-tabs-113011.html
Have fun playing it!

[AllBusiness37]

Like a lot of other posters have already said, I just want to reiterate that the version of "NW3" included in the box set is amazing. I've always especially loved the song; it seems to have a sort of teeming dynamism to it, like it is constantly on the verge of eruption but is so delicately restrained and focused. Plus, it strikes me as a dreary, wintery, London song--which, of course, it is--and those ones are always my favorites.

Anyway, has anyone else noticed the different drum patterns used by Andrew Rankin on this song on the Falconer demos as opposed to the version included in the box set, or any of the numerous live bootlegs of it? On the box set version, the sound is a rolling beat with a lot of work on the toms. (I'm not a drummer, so please excuse my technical ignorance.) But on the Falconer demos, the beat is straight and the snare seems to hit at twice the previous rate. Also on the Falconer demos version, the drums seem to play a larger role in the building intensity of the verses from the first four bars through to the third set each time around--you know, moving from clicks on the rim of the snare to straight hits on the head.

I don't have any critical comments to offer on this incidence, but I just think it's an interesting difference to bring to light. Production issues aside, I think the version of "NW3" in the box set works better with the rolling pattern, but as a person who listens typically to punk and its various offshoots, I continually want to hear the straight, faster beat of the Falconer demos version, especially on this song.

I am a nerd.

[loneghan doyle]

NW3 was recorded, although with altered lyrics as Mother Mo Chroi (think I spelled that right) on Crock of Gold. The version on the Falconer Demos is much better though. I thought the best song Shane did with the Popes was Aisling but overall the pogues material is much better. Actually, maybe not better, just differnt, more traditional. Popes are a little more rock and Shane's vocal obviously were not as strong.

Take your Shane coloured shades off. To even attempt to compare the popes to the Pogues is akin to choosing between julian and John!

[SonOfErin]

Great lyrics, far from the banality of Mother Mó Chrói.

Too bad it was never recorded properly.

The sheer banality of Mother Mo' Chroi, what a overly ridiculous statement to make. Mother Mo Chroi was a quite a standout track on Crock of Gold, and one of Shane's many shining moments with The Popes.'

Iain

Agreed, but I, too, prefer the lyrics to NW 3. There´s a kind of "brutal honesty" to them which I really like.

i agree. i just listened to this song again & read along with the lyrics & have a new appreciation for this over mother mo chroi

[Guest]

NW3 is the code for a postal district in London. NW presumably indicates that it is in the northwestern part but I don't know exactly where it is.

think its round the kilburn area