Borrowed Music

[philipchevron]

The fact that it was Number On for, like, ever in Britain and was unavoidable on the radio, in the high street, in the schoolyard, just about EVERYWHERE, drained it of whatever entertainment value it may once have had.

I´ve read somwehere that this was his only number one hit. Do you think he made "My ding a ling" just for money reasons ?

Unlikely. It was a live recording and evidently was already a concert favourite. Moreover, if anyone could make a novelty record with a guarantee of success, Dave Robinson would be a zillionaire.

[orrok61]

Whatever became of David Robinson? I haven't heard that name in years...

[GunsOfBrixton29]

Will this be of any help?

Aye sir, thanks!

I was just listening to Lead Belly and noticed that "Cotton Fields" has the same tune as well.

[Clash Cadillac]

a note on the Kesh Jig (the riff in Sea Shanty and Paddy Public Enemy #1 (also used in Flogging Molly's "Salty Dog")): it's one of the best-known traditional tunes. most notably, it is the first tune in the opening set on the seminal 1975 debut album by the Bothy Band (in my opinion, the single greatest Irish traditional ensemble of all time.) The Kesh jig is also strikingly similar, in its first section, to another well known tune, The Primrose Vale (I have it on the album "Fierce Traditional" by fiddler Frankie Gavin.)

The Kesh Jig reminds me of the jig at the end of Turkish Song of the Damned. Found this video of The Bothy Band performing it. Great stuff indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjS2ExtzvII

[dawson]

it sounds to me like the instrumental bit off sea shanty.

[Ben Williamson]

the jig at the end of turkish song of the damned is lark in the morning

[Ben Williamson]

well its the beginning of lark in the morning you can listen to the whole thing on youtube somewhere

[Clash Cadillac]

the jig at the end of turkish song of the damned is lark in the morning

Thanks, I was wondering about the origin.

[Narraback]

God bless all here;

Hello to everyone. I'm a newcomer to this forum, but not to the website, and certainly not to the Pogues or Irish music.

I noticed from the beginning that MacGowan's songs borrowed heavily from folk & popular tunes, but there's nothing wrong with that. In fact that's always been a part of the folk music tradition, particularly in Ireland.

I'd like to throw in my two cents (I guess that's about 1.6 Eurocent) and add that London You're a Lady uses the melody of O'Carolan's Planxty George Brabazon, while the intro to Body of an American is very similar to a song called A Free Born Man that I once heard on a Clancy Bros. aIbum. Interesting that the title shows up in the lyrics as well.

There's a lot more, but this is all that comes to mind now. I'd like to draw you're attention to another post I did concerning Pont Mirabeau, and thanks to everyone for such a great site and forum. Nice to be here.

[Nate]

i was late to the box set party, but having just gotten it i think we add at least one entry here.

party of the instrumental section of "the north sea holes" is, almost certainly, one of "the ballydesmond polkas" available here:
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/239

cheers,

nate

[Heather]

i was late to the box set party, but having just gotten it i think we add at least one entry here.

party of the instrumental section of "the north sea holes" is, almost certainly, one of "the ballydesmond polkas" available here:
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/239

cheers,

nate

I knew that anyway.

Ballydesmond was the first tune I learned on the Tin Whistle.

[James]

i was late to the box set party, but having just gotten it i think we add at least one entry here.

party of the instrumental section of "the north sea holes" is, almost certainly, one of "the ballydesmond polkas" available here:
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/239

cheers,

nate

I knew that anyway.

Ballydesmond was the first tune I learned on the Tin Whistle.

Well, why didn't you share it with the rest of us? Why did you keep it to yourself?! [/Homer Simpson]

[Heather]

i was late to the box set party, but having just gotten it i think we add at least one entry here.

party of the instrumental section of "the north sea holes" is, almost certainly, one of "the ballydesmond polkas" available here:
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/239

cheers,

nate

I knew that anyway.

Ballydesmond was the first tune I learned on the Tin Whistle.

Well, why didn't you share it with the rest of us? Why did you keep it to yourself?! [/Homer Simpson]

To be honest, never really thought about it, in the old days when I was here a lot I would have done, but now I have an extremely stressful job and by the time I get home and come on Medusa I'm too tired to post, even if there is a post that I may want to reply to.

Anyway enough of my boring life, back on topic someone please.

[in_the_morning]

When I read through the whole topic, I was a bit disappointed at first, honestly. But then I realised that this is something that makes the Pogues so great actually - writing their own brilliant stuff and combining or mixing it with traditional melodies and music. And not everything was "borrowed", just some good melodies that fit in perfectly to the lyrics and own ideas of the band. So while at first I was kind of "shocked", I now realise that this makes the band even greater I believe. Cheers!

[Gurney Slade]

Has anyone else noticed the similarity between the HOUSE OF GODS fro HELLS DITCH and the Beach Boys YOU STILL BELIEVE IN ME from PET SOUNDS? What about ,also LIVING IN A WORLD WITHOUT HER off Poguemahone,the intro and EWAN MACOLLS Johnny Miner?Do i get Crackerjack pencil as a prize? GO BARCA!