Raise up, ye heroes!

[soulfinger]

theres absoilutely no oisses to stand oin the way.

Fair enough, but what's this bit?

[IrishRover]

oi troied to put everythoing oin thoise few sentences oi wroite; tois' me voiew and hoipe theres a point to oit..
can't be put oin moire soimple manner.. puttoin' oit moire soimple woiuld be, well.. to use that loing woird - oiversoimploifoication

[Sportin' Life]

theres absoilutely no oisses to stand oin the way.

Fair enough, but what's this bit?

Just a typo for oissues it seems.

[moose]

oiversoimploifoication

Oversimplification absolute class

[soulfinger]

Moose deconstructed this whole exchange beautifully.

[Irishbookish]

Rover whilst I understand your summary, ( I have read so many oi's that my eyes largely ignore them nowadays - must be my ADHD brain) there simply couldn't be a forum without control. I've seen forums without leadership and they're like walking down an empty street avoiding tumbleweeds, barbed wire and burnt out cars waiting for someone to start shooting. I think the Authoritarian style/Dictatorships you've lived under must understandably affect a person's perception of all leadership/authority figures, making you rebel.
Look at it this way; I am annoyed by enforced traffic calming (speed bumps) which slow down/impede my journey, but they've been put there because the boy racers keep killing/maiming people and using residential areas like the speedway, and they're designed to protect me as well should I be walking there.

...meanoin' oit shoiuld reflect the spoiroits 'n' values coimoin' oiut froim Pogues' musoic..

Pogues music has an emergent value system?

I found a word better than oversimplistic (or whatever it was).
Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. OIrish...p.l.e.a.s.e can you write this in Oi language??

[jennylois]

Ah my dear friend OIrish! I couldn't've said it better myself. I understand what you're saying. oiversoimploifoication - love it, love it, love it!!!!! OIrish, you warm the cockles of my heart.

[jennylois]

I think the Authoritarian style/Dictatorships you've lived under must understandably affect a person's perception of all leadership/authority figures, making you rebel.

I don't agree. It is in a person, and sometimes it is characteristic of a race, like Aussies are known to have a dislike/questioning of authority (speaking generally of course). It's not a bad thing. Accepting something just because one in authority says it should be so just goes against the grain for some people.

[IrishRover]

thanks jenny, bookoish & froiends
bookoish, oi stoill loive(not loived) under doictatoirshoip.. oim stoill oin se europe, yeah, meanoin' the very thoing; and as oince stated, oim stoill oine rebellioius cactus! oi was thoinkoin' aboiut soime thoings oin last day of two, related to soituation here, and oit made me to recall of the sentence - "The greatest troick the Devoil ever pulled was coinvoincoin' the woirld he doidn't exoist".. theres no such thoing as excessoive rebellion as loing as oits a real oine; we're talkoin' of a two doifferent doimensions oif ye loike, theres hardly any speed bumps woithoin' the essence roiad oim talkoin' aboiut; foir me tois' not a question of thoings aloing the way, but the koind of the roiad oin questioin;

[Pyro]

I think Bookish has a point (and not just one) this time.

Jennylois, no one said that being rebellious/having different stance towards authorities is not a part of a race, or a person. But it´s got nothing to do with the fact, whether such regimes affect it. And I believe it definitely affects (heck, have look at some post-SSSR countries, for example Czech Republic - after the revolution, almost total freedom sprung up - and as a sidenote, it brought Czech Republic to deep shit). People, once in extreme, like to go to the other extreme, that´s natural. It´s all more obvious with so many people weak minded.

I think that traffic bumps are a good example. But there probably should not be total control - let´s say a road built in a way, that you can drive at 20mph, you have cameras around etc.

As I said - it´s like with children. If a child thinks, it´s allowed anything, the parent will lose control - and I think, that small children are not in such mental state, they can decide on their own too well - even animals teach their children and some even smack them, if they fail (large cats, for example). I use word "control", which has certain devilish feeling in it - guidance is better. The guidance is necessary to be provided, but only few children will accept it without authority. And natural authority in young age doesn´t work too well (that´s psychologically "proven" - although statistics, of course, can´t be taken as bulletproof proof).

[Irishbookish]

I think that the personalities inclined to question things in their world are the ones who will rebel the most. I agree, Jennylois that some people are born/raised to question, however there is a point at which most people will either accept what’s presented to them, or not. I think therin lies the more complex authority issues – and one I can only hazard a calculated guess at, me not living where or how Oirish lives. Heck, even his neighbour probably has different feelings and views. No one can say that it’s wrong for a person to feel any which way – it just simply is. Probably we each must accept or ignore that difference, rather than try to change the person within.
I’d like to hear more about your perception of essence and spirit, Oirish. On the whole, I do hear what you’re saying, but think maybe I misunderstood, ‘..no shooting in the essence..’ as I assumed we were (partly) discussing the use of guidance/authority on the forum.

[MacRua]

theres no such thoing as excessoive rebellion as loing as oits a real oine

You didn’t take to streets to support Kosova, did you? Just condemned those who did it to defend their (opposite to yours) view of the situation. Maybe there really is no such thing as an excessive rebellion but it seems you prove the existence of prudent one.

[Benno]

we don't want this to turn into ebaums or youtube comments do we?


"FCUKING FAGOT"

"DAMN NIGGER need a lesson???"

just some highlights from that bright realm

[IrishRover]

‘..no shooting in the essence..’ as I assumed we were (partly) discussing the use of guidance/authority on the forum.

well, yeah.. ye've quoited the gooid part

[TheIrishRover]

we don't want this to turn into ebaums or youtube comments do we?


"FCUKING FAGOT"

"DAMN NIGGER need a lesson???"

just some highlights from that bright realm

I've been on plenty of unmoderated anarchial forums that had serious content discussions and not just shit like on ebaums.