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Post Sun May 13, 2007 12:21 am

philipchevron wrote:The Entertainer

by John Osborne (Old Vic, London)

But half a century later, it is not "Look Back In Anger" which has the greater claim to "classic" status, but the much more incisive, disciplined and visceral "The Entertainer". What the earlier play dramatised was the collapse of the British class system, and it's easy to see why that was such a potent thing to do in post-war, pre-Beatles Britain, But "The Entertainer" deconstructs and dismantles something much more fundamental - it is an elegy to the whole notion of Britishness, a farewell to Empire. And one can't help thinking that, if anyone realised that in 1957, when the Suez crisis had decisively exposed the Emperor's nakedness on the world stage, few dared express it in such stark terms. In the light of the iconic ironing board in "Look Back In Anger" the metaphor of the dying Music Hall tradition in the play was welcomed as another staging post in Osborne's narrative of genteel British decline.
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In 2007, we come to "The Entertainer" forewarned and forearmed. Not only is the Empire dead, but its consequences follow us around still and, from all appearances, our leaders have learned next to nothing from its defeat. "Look Back In Anger" is a very good, shouty play but, even with Michael Sheen leading an NT revival a few years ago, it is no longer much more than that. "The Entertainer",on the other hand, must now be counted among the truly great plays of the 20th century, and Lindsay, his company and director Sean Holmes do it the honour of giving it its full value.


I thought it was an exceptional production. Many of Osborne's plays haven't aged awfully well, but the present political climate made The Entertainer seem as fresh as it was 50-odd years ago.

I've taught some modern drama on an Eng Lit MA and students tend to be a tad bemused by Look Back in Anger, which seems really rather tame and yes, shouty, now. :) Choosing which recent plays to teach on the course was an interesting exercise. I went for Sarah Kane's Blasted and found myself rather surprised when students seemed almost blase about it. Some of them were more shocked by the men bonking in public toilets in Alan Hollinghurst's The Swimming Pool Library when we studied that text the previous week! All I can think of is that the horrors of Blasted don't seem real when read on the printed page. Either that, or students are inured to such violence by what they see on TV every day.
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Post Wed May 23, 2007 2:14 pm

I have single tickets for the following performances in Stratford-Upon-Avon which I find I cannot attend. First to ask for them gets them. I do not require any payment, I'd just rather they were not wasted. They are all top price tickets.

Tuesday June 5 7.30 Macbeth Swan Theatre
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Wednesday June 6 1 pm King Lear Courtyard Theatre
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Wednesday June 6 7 pm The Seagull Courtyard Theatre
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Post Wed May 23, 2007 2:46 pm

Thank you, Philip, for your comment a few weeks back concerning McDonagh. I've found plenty of material concerning Irish drama etc which I hope will provide me with enough insight to make up for the lack of good literature on McDonagh (that's available here).

I don't any of Osborne's plays except Look Back in Anger but I quickly tired of the nihilistic/existentialist worldview that's shared by all its protagonists. Would that be one of the reasons you think it hasn't aged well, Shaz?
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Post Sat May 26, 2007 9:44 pm

Kiss Of The Spider Woman by Manuel Puig (Donmar Warehouse)

Love is found in unexpected places. This piece has been a hit in so many media - novel, play, film, musical - that it must be considered a modern classic. It is never better than as a play, though I always feel it has clumsy moments directors could and should iron out. But like Martin Sherman's Bent, with which it has a number of affinities, it contains a poetic truth that transcends the fact it was once labelled a "gay" play.

Last time I saw Rupert Evans (Valentin) he was playing Romeo at Stratford, which makes the comparison all the more striking. Theatre history will come to see Bent and Kiss Of The Spider Woman as key moments when art anticipated the imminent social revolution which began to see LGBT people as just, well, normal.
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Post Tue May 29, 2007 2:46 pm

philipchevron wrote:I have single tickets for the following performances in Stratford-Upon-Avon which I find I cannot attend. First to ask for them gets them. I do not require any payment, I'd just rather they were not wasted. They are all top price tickets.

Tuesday June 5 7.30 Macbeth Swan Theatre
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Wednesday June 6 1 pm King Lear Courtyard Theatre
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Wednesday June 6 7 pm The Seagull Courtyard Theatre
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Post Wed May 30, 2007 9:20 am

I have the chance to see a production (which has excellent reviews) of Angels in America this week. It's being performed over two nights, and I can realistically only get to one of the two. So, if anyone's seen it, which would be recommended as a stand-alone: Part 1 or Part 2?
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Post Wed May 30, 2007 10:03 am

firehazard wrote:I have the chance to see a production (which has excellent reviews) of Angels in America this week. It's being performed over two nights, and I can realistically only get to one of the two. So, if anyone's seen it, which would be recommended as a stand-alone: Part 1 or Part 2?


I'm seeing both parts of this production on one Saturday in June. It's ten years since I saw the Crucible Sheffield's memorable revival but go for Part One I say. The set up is one of the best things about the play.
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Post Wed May 30, 2007 10:16 am

philipchevron wrote:
firehazard wrote:I have the chance to see a production (which has excellent reviews) of Angels in America this week. It's being performed over two nights, and I can realistically only get to one of the two. So, if anyone's seen it, which would be recommended as a stand-alone: Part 1 or Part 2?


I'm seeing both parts of this production on one Saturday in June. It's ten years since I saw the Crucible Sheffield's memorable revival but go for Part One I say. The set up is one of the best things about the play.


Thanks. I'd love to be able to see both parts, but I don't think it's going to happen this time.
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Post Wed May 30, 2007 10:37 am

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philipchevron wrote:I have single tickets for the following performances in Stratford-Upon-Avon which I find I cannot attend. First to ask for them gets them. I do not require any payment, I'd just rather they were not wasted. They are all top price tickets.

Tuesday June 5 7.30 Macbeth Swan Theatre
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Wednesday June 6 1 pm King Lear Courtyard Theatre
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Wednesday June 6 7 pm The Seagull Courtyard Theatre
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If anyone wants a single, um, lowest price ticket (free) to see Merchant Of Venice at the Globe next tuesday 7.30 pm, pm me, also included a ticket to Setting The Scene pre-show talk at 6.
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Post Thu May 31, 2007 1:14 pm

Sweeney Todd by Stephen Sondheim and Hugh Wheeler (Gate Theatre, Dublin)

I can't honestly say I much liked this production, though it gets better as it unfolds. Recent reappraisals of perhaps Sondheim's most coherent work have tended towards the view that if you play the horror, the comedy will take care of itself. In this Dublin premiere, too often the comedy is the top note and is played so broadly that the horror is suffocated. Additionally, the actors are only adequate singers, the exceptional Camille O'Sullivan (the Beggar Woman) and the great Barry McGovern (Judge Turpin) apart. It is no more possible to do Sondheim with substandard vocalists than it is to do Shakespeare with clodhopping verse speakers.
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Post Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:25 pm

I'm back! and I don't know whether to shake you warmly by the hand, Mr Chevron, electronicallyspeaking, or to try to sue for chronic and Irreparable Damage to my nervous system.

9 tortuous (and COMPLETELY compelling) hours of tragedy; despair, madness, beheadings, rapes, hangings and suicides .. During the short times I was allowed out I stumbled dazed and blinking through the Stratford sunlight, manicured lawns, lounging lovers, gliding swans and it took a disturbingly long while to register the land wasn't strewn with corpses, gashed with trenches, rain cascading ...

They did ... things in Macbeth ... terrible things I've never seen before ... the things they did ... no one ... no one should ever see.

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Post Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:20 pm

Eyeball_Kid wrote:Thank you, Philip, for your comment a few weeks back concerning McDonagh. I've found plenty of material concerning Irish drama etc which I hope will provide me with enough insight to make up for the lack of good literature on McDonagh (that's available here).

I don't any of Osborne's plays except Look Back in Anger but I quickly tired of the nihilistic/existentialist worldview that's shared by all its protagonists. Would that be one of the reasons you think it hasn't aged well, Shaz?


Yes, I think that's a fair summing-up, Eyeball Kid! And what also dates it now is the stilted 'staged' way Osborne's characters -- particularly Jimmy Porter -- are presented. Which is ironic given the drawing room dramas that went before and which LBIA was supposedly demolishing (although clearly having these 'oiks' on stage was a big change :) )

I was listening to an old compilation tape the other day and came across Ash on an Old Man's Sleeve by the Albion Band, which portrays Jimmy Porter as an elderly widower. There are three certainties in life -- death, taxes and the Albion Band appearing in yet another reincarnation :wink: -- but this is one of their very strongest songs. It takes JP into the 1980s and 1990s where he sees creeping Americanisation all around him.
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Post Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:21 pm

CM wrote:I'm back! and I don't know whether to shake you warmly by the hand, Mr Chevron, electronicallyspeaking, or to try to sue for chronic and Irreparable Damage to my nervous system.

9 tortuous (and COMPLETELY compelling) hours of tragedy; despair, madness, beheadings, rapes, hangings and suicides .. During the short times I was allowed out I stumbled dazed and blinking through the Stratford sunlight, manicured lawns, lounging lovers, gliding swans and it took a disturbingly long while to register the land wasn't strewn with corpses, gashed with trenches, rain cascading ...

They did ... things in Macbeth ... terrible things I've never seen before ... the things they did ... no one ... no one should ever see.

More later!

THANKYOU PHILIP


Looking forward to hearing all about your experiences, CM! :)
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Post Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:58 pm

Shaz thanks for your comments about Ed's paintings.

Still shuddering at Macbeth. Any tragedy (ie its going to end a Whole Lot Worse that it starts) that begins with the 'hero' twisting the heads off babies you know you're in for a rough ride... more later .
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Post Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:15 pm

Betrayal by Harold Pinter (Donmar, London)

Early career Funny Pinter I get, late period Angry As Hell Pinter I love, but that bit in the middle with the can't-we-all-be-adult-about-this plays leave me a bit cold. That said, Betrayal is a fine piece of writing and even an interesting piece of theatre. It is also excessively and self-consciously intellectual and Pinter can never quite be forgiven for spawning Tom Stoppard.

Along with Toby Stephens and Samuel West, who are dismayingly turning into their mothers (Maggie Smith and Prunella Scales) before our very eyes as they get older, this play stars Dervla Kirwan. Soon, very soon, I will absolve her of the crime of aiding and abetting that puppet turkey (Dustin) murder "Fairytale Of New York" and she can go back to proper acting, which she is very good at.
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