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[Still] The President of these here United States of America

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Re: The New President of these here United States of America

Post Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:10 am

O'Blivion wrote:We have VERY different ideas of how the two-party system should work. Two years of spinning your tires in the muck gets us nowhere.


After two years of spinning further into the abyss. You do know the House has passed upward of 20 bills all aimed at job creation etc only to be rejected by the Senate. To bad the Prez doesn't understand compromise. In this case he should take a page from Hillarys husband.
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Re: The New President of these here United States of America

Post Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:48 am

cagliostro wrote:To O'Blivion's statistics, I present Robert Anton Wilson’s secret of power: “You know how dumb the average person is. Well, half the people are even dumber than that.”

NewJerseyRich wrote:Note: If you do win I will probably be unable to pay you as another four years of the dismantling of our economy and our freedoms and we'll all be in deep deep economic doo doo. I recommend stocking up on survival books now.


This is something I keep seeing over and over again by the anti-Obama folks - Obama is going to cause us all to have to run to the hills and live in caves and we'll need to learn how to survive in the wilderness. Where did this start? No matter how crappy it was with Bush, I never heard anyone spout these doomsday scenarios. I only ever heard people whining that they'd need to move to another country. So where did this "run for the hills" fear come from? Was it one talking head that trickled down to the many (such as my inlaws)? I don't get it.


My comments had more to do with sarcasum then actual hill hiding. I would suggest the idea of an apocolyptical event being largely non-partisan. Although TEOTWAWKI (the end of the world as we know it) scenarios are all the rage currently I believe that is due to.....1) The worlds economies being on the verge of collapse. 2) There's also much talk about the threat of EMP (electromagnetic pulse) These can range from solar flares or be human created and in theory wipe out all electronics sending civilization into a 100 year slide back in time. 3) Add to that the Mayan calandar and their 2012 end of time thingy and you can see why it's currently a common topic of conversation.
I would assume the in laws are probably more in the camp of economic collapse where we'll be looking at worse times then the great depression. Store supplies now while you can, it can't hurt.
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Post Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:00 am

O'Blivion wrote:Are you sure that's accurate? Seems like it might be a little low.

77% of adult Americans believe in angels.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-573 ... in-angels/


Only 39 percent of Americans believe in the evolution. The good news: only a quarter said they didn't believe it; the remaining portion either didn't have an opinion or didn't answer. (Also, only 55 percent correctly linked Darwin's name with the theory.) However, it appears that views may, um, evolve: younger people believe in evolution at far higher rates than older ones.

Copernicus be damned, 20 percent of Americans were still sure in 1999 that the sun revolved around the Earth. Gallup, the pollster that conducted the study, gamely tried to dress it up by celebrating the fact that "four out of five Americans know Earth revolves around the sun," but we're not buying.

According to NEWSWEEK's 2007 What You Need to Know poll, barely half of Americans were correctly able to state that Judaism was older than both Christianity and Islam. Another 41 percent weren't sure.

According to Zogby, the majority of Americans—three in four—can correctly identify Larry, Curly, and Moe as the Three Stooges. Only two out of five respondents, however, can correctly identify the executive, legislative, and judicial branches as the three wings of government.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/g ... ieve.html#


1 in 5 Americans believe Obama is a cactus.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/poll-1 ... tus,18127/

(oops. That was on The Onion.)

As for the 52% of Americans who think Obama hasn't accomplished much - how many of them believe correctly that it's because the Republicans in Congress (make up your own number for their approval rating, but keep it in single digits) are more worried about Obama not being re-elected than in governing?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/07/10/m ... tant-goal/

Rich, do you REALLY think America will vote for a plutocrat who believes in magic underwear? If so, I'll gladly wager you $10 on the outcome of the election. That's ten bucks, not the $10,000.00 bets that Romney throws around. Or the $370,000.00 he describes as "not much".

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-hab ... 11264.html

And let's not forget 43% of Americans believe God helps Tebow win games. Which means Satan must have won that last one...
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Post Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:53 pm

Indeed, yes. The swift airbrushing of Tebow from the Christo-American narrative has been especially breathtaking to perceive. Have you guys no loyalty, no shame, no integrity or are those things just not in the Constitution none of you ever reads?
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Post Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:26 pm

Did any of you read this article I posted a while back?

5 Logical Fallacies That Make You Wrong More Than You Think
http://www.cracked.com/article_19468_5- ... think.html
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Post Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:48 pm

I think the election will boil down to this key question: which candidate can sing Al Green songs the best?


http://youtu.be/T-hDt2E8MoE

Let's Stay Together! Re-elect the President!
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O'Blivion wrote:I think the election will boil down to this key question: which candidate can sing Al Green songs the best?


http://youtu.be/T-hDt2E8MoE

Let's Stay Together! Re-elect the President!


Yes, he's not bad either. The Al Green moment puts in stark relief America's choices: Hot buttered Southern Soul or CMTV cod country.
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Post Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:34 pm

kmurray105 wrote:Did any of you read this article I posted a while back?

5 Logical Fallacies That Make You Wrong More Than You Think
http://www.cracked.com/article_19468_5- ... think.html


Yes, but what would we banter about if we all realised this?
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Post Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:35 pm

O'Blivion wrote:I think the election will boil down to this key question: which candidate can sing Al Green songs the best?


http://youtu.be/T-hDt2E8MoE

Let's Stay Together! Re-elect the President!


can you say "douche chills"
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philipchevron wrote:
O'Blivion wrote:I think the election will boil down to this key question: which candidate can sing Al Green songs the best?


http://youtu.be/T-hDt2E8MoE

Let's Stay Together! Re-elect the President!


Yes, he's not bad either. The Al Green moment puts in stark relief America's choices: Hot buttered Southern Soul or CMTV cod country.


My favorite Al Green song is Belle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1fAl7MAOAE
Despite its silliness, I love it! Don't think anyone else could/would sing it.

I like the Sandman reference.
There's a video of Obama telling a donut(?) clerk "we straight" regarding his change that is way more soulful 'n this though.
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Oops, actually a Ben's Chili Bowl employee.
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Post Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:09 pm

Thomas Frank muses on a "springtime for the paranoid American right", New Statesman, current issue.


"Historical facts make no difference..............You can have plunging stock markets, mounting unemployment and a gaping class divide, but the forces of ideology and modern marketing can make anything seem to be its opposite.

"Think about it this way. It has now been more than 30 years since the supply-side revolution conquered Washington, since the free-market faith became the dogma of the nation's ruling class, shared by large numbers of Democrats as well as Republicans. We have lived through decades of deregulation, deunionisation, privatisation and free-trade agreements.

And now, after all this has been going on for decades, we have a people's uprising demanding that we embrace the free-market ideology. And this only a short while after that ideology led the world into the greatest economic catastrophe in memory. "Amazing" would be a good word for this."
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Frances wrote:Oops, actually a Ben's Chili Bowl employee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30-lYueJivk
@:30 8)

A pint of Plain..............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5206QjFWmAk
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philipchevron wrote:Thomas Frank muses on a "springtime for the paranoid American right", New Statesman, current issue.


"Historical facts make no difference..............You can have plunging stock markets, mounting unemployment and a gaping class divide, but the forces of ideology and modern marketing can make anything seem to be its opposite.

"Think about it this way. It has now been more than 30 years since the supply-side revolution conquered Washington, since the free-market faith became the dogma of the nation's ruling class, shared by large numbers of Democrats as well as Republicans. We have lived through decades of deregulation, deunionisation, privatisation and free-trade agreements.

And now, after all this has been going on for decades, we have a people's uprising demanding that we embrace the free-market ideology. And this only a short while after that ideology led the world into the greatest economic catastrophe in memory. "Amazing" would be a good word for this."



If only Mr Frank had any "facts" to back this up.
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philipchevron wrote:Thomas Frank muses on a "springtime for the paranoid American right", New Statesman, current issue.


"Historical facts make no difference..............You can have plunging stock markets, mounting unemployment and a gaping class divide, but the forces of ideology and modern marketing can make anything seem to be its opposite.

"Think about it this way. It has now been more than 30 years since the supply-side revolution conquered Washington, since the free-market faith became the dogma of the nation's ruling class, shared by large numbers of Democrats as well as Republicans. We have lived through decades of deregulation, deunionisation, privatisation and free-trade agreements.

And now, after all this has been going on for decades, we have a people's uprising demanding that we embrace the free-market ideology. And this only a short while after that ideology led the world into the greatest economic catastrophe in memory. "Amazing" would be a good word for this."



If only Mr Frank had any "facts" to back this up.


I think you may possibly have missed the thrust of his rhetoric. Never mind.
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