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The Next President of the United States

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Re: The Next President of the United States

Post Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:12 pm

NewJerseyRich wrote:Can't agree with you on the Electoral College. As you said "Square miles of land isn't democracy." Cali gets 55 electoral votes so a candidate has to make those up somewhere else basically having to win 3-4 or 10 states to over come this deficit. North Dakota votes are not more valuable to Cali as they're based on population. They have a paltry 3 electoral votes. If land mass were the barometer Alaska as well wouldn't have 3 electoral votes.


I noted land mass because of your means-nothing statistic of "but Trump won XYZ more States." Winning more states (raw numbers or percentage) doesn't mean much in a democracy. What should matter is the number of votes a candidate got. The Electoral College intentionally skews the value of a vote so that a vote cast in, say, Wyoming has 3x the value of a vote cast in, say, California. In 2008 across all the states an electoral vote represented approximately 565,166 people, but Wyoming gets 3 electoral votes (the minimum possible for a state to have) to represent a population of 532,668. That means a Wymoning electoral vote, which counts just as much as a California electoral vote, represents 1/3 as many voters. Hence "the Electoral College is bullshit."

Your recollection of the 3/5th rule is a little off. IF they counted slaves as a full person the states power would have shifted base on the very thing you're railing for...population. The South at that time would have had greater representation and likely over taken the Govt. It was a compromise.

Are you really defending "slaves count as 3/5 of a person"?
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Re: The Next President of the United States

Post Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:52 pm

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DzM wrote:Rather than find common ground we can also just try to amuse ourselves while the world burns.

Let's buck the trend and find common ground bossman, meanwhile lets drop our bucks on the "Donald not resigning" and clean up.

No. Not possible. Not when this level of incompetence and mean spirited animus has been so brazenly displayed. I have no common ground with anyone that can look back on the last two months of shit-show from this administration and say "yes, this is what I want."
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Re: The Next President of the United States

Post Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:02 am

DzM wrote:
NewJerseyRich wrote:
DzM wrote:Rather than find common ground we can also just try to amuse ourselves while the world burns.

Let's buck the trend and find common ground bossman, meanwhile lets drop our bucks on the "Donald not resigning" and clean up.

No. Not possible. Not when this level of incompetence and mean spirited animus has been so brazenly displayed. I have no common ground with anyone that can look back on the last two months of shit-show from this administration and say "yes, this is what I want."


I will be giving Trump approximately the same respect and support NJR gave to Obama.
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Re: The Next President of the United States

Post Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:47 pm

The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, announced that the agency is investigating whether members of President Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election.

Mr. Comey also dismissed Mr. Trump’s claim that he was wiretapped by his predecessor.

(NY Times March 20th)
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Post Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:00 pm

Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump March 4th

Arnold Schwarzenegger isn't voluntarily leaving the Apprentice, he was fired by his
bad (pathetic) ratings, not by me. Sad end to great show


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Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump March 4th

How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process.
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Re: The Next President of the United States

Post Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:47 pm

langer wrote:Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump March 4th

Arnold Schwarzenegger isn't voluntarily leaving the Apprentice, he was fired by his
bad (pathetic) ratings, not by me. Sad end to great show


Ooops, sorry ... this is the one ...

Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump March 4th

How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process.
This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!



I`am sure he will be back....for sure ...for sure......
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Re: The Next President of the United States

Post Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:14 pm

Sportin' Life wrote:
DzM wrote:
NewJerseyRich wrote:
DzM wrote:Rather than find common ground we can also just try to amuse ourselves while the world burns.

Let's buck the trend and find common ground bossman, meanwhile lets drop our bucks on the "Donald not resigning" and clean up.

No. Not possible. Not when this level of incompetence and mean spirited animus has been so brazenly displayed. I have no common ground with anyone that can look back on the last two months of shit-show from this administration and say "yes, this is what I want."


I will be giving Trump approximately the same respect and support NJR gave to Obama.


I'd expect nothing less but the medias frantic, frenetic, fact lacking, sky is falling diatribes all day everyday is wearing mighty thin after 60 days.
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Post Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:15 pm

I'LL JUST LEAVE THIS HERE....

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-nunes-surveillance-htmlstory.html
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Post Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:25 pm

DzM wrote:
NewJerseyRich wrote:
DzM wrote:Rather than find common ground we can also just try to amuse ourselves while the world burns.

Let's buck the trend and find common ground bossman, meanwhile lets drop our bucks on the "Donald not resigning" and clean up.

No. Not possible. Not when this level of incompetence and mean spirited animus has been so brazenly displayed. I have no common ground with anyone that can look back on the last two months of shit-show from this administration and say "yes, this is what I want."


Disappointed in you Bossman. People disagree on many things and can find common ground.
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Post Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:21 pm

NewJerseyRich wrote:I'LL JUST LEAVE THIS HERE....

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-nunes-surveillance-htmlstory.html


The eavesdropping appears to have been legal and inadvertently picked up Trump associates because they were communicating with individuals under government surveillance, Nunes [Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Tulare)] suggested.

So the police were tapping the Russians, and picked up the Trump campaign because they just happened to be talking to the Russians. Got it. Whew, nothing to worry about then...
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Post Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:46 am

Low D wrote:
NewJerseyRich wrote:I'LL JUST LEAVE THIS HERE....

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-nunes-surveillance-htmlstory.html


The eavesdropping appears to have been legal and inadvertently picked up Trump associates because they were communicating with individuals under government surveillance, Nunes [Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Tulare)] suggested.

So the police were tapping the Russians, and picked up the Trump campaign because they just happened to be talking to the Russians. Got it. Whew, nothing to worry about then...



Way to only spot what your lib eye seeks. I know your from a different country so you may have missed the bits about what the law is in the US.

"The surveillance was apparently unrelated to an ongoing FBI counterintelligence investigation into whether Trump campaign aides coordinated with Russian intelligence agencies that sought to interfere in the 2016 presidential race, Nunes said.

"Details about U.S. persons involved in the incoming administration with little or no apparent foreign intelligence value were widely disseminated in intelligence community reports," he said.

Under the law, identities of Americans whose communications are picked up by intelligence eavesdropping of foreign targets are supposed to be kept confidential unless the conversations relate to espionage or some other potential crime that warrants further investigation"
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Post Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:47 am

Putin has the mentality of a mob boss..Trump won't say a bad word about him..more and more stuff about the campaign and the Russians coming out..<pulls up chair..sets big tub of popcorn on coffee table>
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Post Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:43 pm

old barney greyheron wrote:Putin has the mentality of a mob boss..Trump won't say a bad word about him..more and more stuff about the campaign and the Russians coming out..<pulls up chair..sets big tub of popcorn on coffee table>


OBG don't bother. The only Trump / Russia connection is attempts to connect dots created on the Fake news shows. Zero facts. Eight months of investigating. Zero evidence. Nothing, nada, zilch.
The real story is who is leaking information from the US government. Who unmasked names of innocent US citizens not involved in a crime and gave that to the media. This is a crime punishable by up to 10 years in jail.
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Post Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:32 am

NewJerseyRich wrote:
old barney greyheron wrote:Putin has the mentality of a mob boss..Trump won't say a bad word about him..more and more stuff about the campaign and the Russians coming out..<pulls up chair..sets big tub of popcorn on coffee table>


OBG don't bother. The only Trump / Russia connection is attempts to connect dots created on the Fake news shows. Zero facts. Eight months of investigating. Zero evidence. Nothing, nada, zilch.
The real story is who is leaking information from the US government. Who unmasked names of innocent US citizens not involved in a crime and gave that to the media. This is a crime punishable by up to 10 years in jail.


You really believe your own bullshit, don't you?
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Post Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:44 am

Sportin' Life wrote:
NewJerseyRich wrote:
old barney greyheron wrote:Putin has the mentality of a mob boss..Trump won't say a bad word about him..more and more stuff about the campaign and the Russians coming out..<pulls up chair..sets big tub of popcorn on coffee table>


OBG don't bother. The only Trump / Russia connection is attempts to connect dots created on the Fake news shows. Zero facts. Eight months of investigating. Zero evidence. Nothing, nada, zilch.
The real story is who is leaking information from the US government. Who unmasked names of innocent US citizens not involved in a crime and gave that to the media. This is a crime punishable by up to 10 years in jail.


You really believe your own bullshit, don't you?


Just waiting on evidence and proof. If you have some please share. All the talk is talking head speculation with no facts.
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