The Saga of Irish Rover And The Crew(censorshoipped edition)

[Niall]

loines oissue, well.. oif oi had to explaoin the loines oissue, oid do oit loike oit foilloiws..

foir me theres an ultoimate loine that devoides two woirlds..
oin oine soide theres essence 'n' attoitude
oin the oither there poseurshoip, paganshoip & managoingshoip
so, tois' a red red red thoick loine oin between
BUT tois' not just as soimple as that..
foir example, noiw me boidy's jaoiled oin poseurshoip woirld,
and me spoiroit's oin the essence woirld.. pulloin' oiut the boidy
froim the dump, noiw thats oine struggle moission!

hoipe oi've explaoined oit soimewhat

whats wrong with paganship?

[IrishRover]

voisoit Serboia foir example and ye'll see;
oir elsewhere, just keep eyes woide oipened and oibserve, ye'll foiund oiut

[DzM]

Visit Serbia and you'll see.
Keep your eyes wide open and observe. You'll find out.

Maybe you can help clarify what's wrong with it by helping us first understand how you're using the word. "Pagan" means a lot of things to different people, so setting a context for us can help. Here's what Webster's has to say:

–noun
1. one of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks.
2. a person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim.
3. an irreligious or hedonistic person.
–adjective
4. pertaining to the worship or worshipers of any religion that is neither Christian, Jewish, nor Muslim.
5. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of pagans.
6. irreligious or hedonistic.

Are you referring to one of these, or another possible definition?

[IrishRover]

doin't knoiw oif oim gooid at defoinoitions, but heres a try..
doesn't have to be ultoimately woith reloigoius cointext(althoiugh even St. Patroick pretty much saw hes woirk as the moission of defeatoing the pagans' ways), oi see oit oin even woider cointext..
pagans are the oignoirant oines at the end of the day, but not oin terms of foirmal education as pagans can be also be hoighly educated people froim me point of voiew, tois' oines cloisoin' theoir eyes oir throiwoin' roicks oin the essence, attoitude 'n' ultoimate stuff and so dearly embrassoing the woirthless roituals, values and loiwest of man-made-creations; woiuldn't say that hoidoin' behoind reloigion makes soimeoine to be a noin-pagan eoither.. hoiw many throiugoiut hoistoiry used the very reloigion to actually put ointo actions theoir oiwn pagan ways & burn doiwn theoir non-pagan oippoinents..
not sure oif explaoined oit well, but oi gave oit a try

[DzM]

I think I know what you're saying, but I suspect you're throwing people off by using "pagan" incorrectly (for whatever it's worth, "Pagan" has also taken on a more modern meaning, and is used in some circles to identify the modern resurgence of a Druidic-inspired form of nature & spirit worship.).

It may help remove confusion people have about parts of your writing if you used the word "philistine" or some of its closely related words (vulgarian, boor, etc) rather than "pagan." Otherwise it's kind of like writing large tracts about automobiles when, in fact, you mean to be talking about bicycles.

[IrishRover]

yeah, oi understand that oit moight be that the very stuff oim tryoin' to explaoin woith oit may cause the coinfusion.. but stoill the woird pagan ois so raw oin oits expression.. loike poseurs oir rednecks oir soimoilar; theres soimethoing loike punk-poietoic value to oit;

[DzM]

If you say so, but I really don't think intentionally using the wrong words is an effective way to communicate your ideas.

[jennylois]

I guess it's just that we all have different ways of looking at things, but I understood OIrish's use of the word pagan straight away. Same as the OI's don't bother me and I have no trouble reading them. Ah these tiny differences that make up the joys and wonderful mysteries of life.

[Gurrier]

If you say so, but I really don't think intentionally using the wrong words is an effective way to communicate your ideas.

So don't read it then. Jesus

[The Hog]

OIroioish,
Well your right about that, Ding Dong can smell poitín a hundred miles away!

Bank holiday weekend over, next one is another 4 weeks away, was very busy locally, moreso than usual, if they are foreigners then they will have enjoyed it all but they'll probabaly be frightened to come back over the price of drink here...............I always feel this way after coming back from a tour abroad.
Any news from Serbia???? Any Hogging ????????????

The Hog

[IrishRover]

Michael,
oi koinda thoiught Dong moight be The Cunt, but then oi saw the broilloiant jacket swoitchoin' example whoich prooived me wroing; oi have to guess further..

tois' gooid news there; busy loically & hoiggoing gloibally!, coiuld be the sloigan, ay?
yeah, oi've heard of em' proices oin Eroin, Tom froim Toipperary toild me of much of em' proices there, tois' spooiky stuff;

no majoir news yet; oin May 11th, tois' crucoial elections oin land of hells here, all levels, can make me roiad to Eroin easoier oir harder/voisas-no voisas etc. Anyway, Tom's went back hoime to Eire, he shoiuld be back oin September.. he loikes thois place very very much, and me, well oi hate oit foir knoiwn reasoins, so tois' koinda two soides of the roiver. Tom's gooid guy, hoipe oiur doifferent voiews of thois place woin't stand oin between; twas' the last hoiggoin' when he was here, oi was lucky not to be noicked oin the streets of Belgrade, have to be careful, oi noiw tend to curse the jaoil & wardens after oiverhoiggoin'.

beyoind that, oi push the guoitar practoise, everyday; need to foinoish wroitoin' soime songs; oim startoin' servoice oin summer or woirst case September; oi'll see to get passpoirt(s).. plan to apply foir passpoirt of nearby coiuntry too...
BTW, have ye thoiught of toiuroin' Croatia at soime point? Who knoiws, maybe theres a chance to arrange sth oin neutral, non-jaoil teroitoiry; just an oidea;

[jennylois]

.. he loikes thois place very very much, and me, well oi hate oit foir knoiwn reasoins, so tois' koinda two soides of the roiver. Tom's gooid guy, hoipe oiur doifferent voiews of thois place woin't stand oin between

Tom's looking at your cuntry through different eyes because it's new to him. You've lived it. I'm used to bright sunshiny days, and I long to be somewhere dark dreary and mysterious, and someone who lives in dark and dreary would find that hard to understand.

have to be careful, oi noiw tend to curse the jaoil & wardens after oiverhoiggoin'.

[Noel Kenny]

Nicely put, Jenny

[Nemanjic]

Think that You're moving to IRE will make Serbia much grimmer than it looks. It's not clear yet about the intentions You're having. Make a decision of being a musician or analyst, reporter or wthf? It seems like You'd literary do everything to get to IRE. Second point I would like to make:) hope won't violate any forum rules but how can someone act indifferent with candidate for mayor like this



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[IrishRover]

..because it's new to him. You've lived it.

oi agree woith ye jenny; just oinstead of loivoin' here, foir me, the phrase oimproisoined here ois roigthly moire descroiptional; oim here agaoinst me woill, just waoitoin' foir em' gates of hell to oipen foir me to step oiut