The Medusa Fora

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:27 am**

Noonan McKane wrote:"Dare to dream" is a bit too pompous a phrase, for anyone to coin,

Just 'cause it's pompous doesn't mean it's not apt.

Noonan wrote:"Aint" was popularised slightly more than 20 years ago; By that song "It Aint Necessarily So", for one...

I made no claim to it's being a new word - only that persistent popular use has brought it into the lexicon of modern English.

Twenty years ago you would not have found it in a dictionary. Today you will:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=aint

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:44 am**

Noonan McKane wrote:Wash n' wear, suitable for all occasions, formal or informal.

Every day brings fresh fruit, worse news, unreliable counsel and fashion tips; Lifestyle guidelines, updated timetables, messages and unrelated; I may already have won a thousand pounds, there may be a new Jerusalem; Descending from the sky. They won't repair my old machine because it's obselete; A brand new one could cost me much less than I think. Thank you, doctor, but no. I only ever get sick when you visit isn't that damnedable?

The only price that stays the same is the one that I pay for whatever it is that I did that they can not forgive. I only hear half of what's said in the hall and it's driving me mad to believe that I'm only being kept 'cause I'm cheap. The leaflets they deliver don't say as much; But I know things are changing. The sun is the same in a relative way and the universe is random, chaotic and perpetually expanding; But brown seems to be the new black.

Every few months they redecorate. Alter the clocks, reconfigure the religious icons and play Beatles records. They offer to wash me though I always refuse. The lottery rolls over and you could cut the atmosphere with a knife. Those who are random and scattershot are freshly informed for their own safety. I keep telling them, that isn't my sister; Don't listen to her! What the hell am I paying you people for?

Every day brings fresh fruit. Every few months they redecorate.

I don't really have anything to add to this; I just wanted, for once, to be the first person to misappropriate a piece by Noonan McKane. Do I get paid? Do I fuck.
I bet "Nineteen Eighty Four" wouldn't have been half as succesful if Orwell had been contractually obliged to publish all his previous work under eight or nine different names.
In the Reader's Fucking Digest.
Bitter? You got it, citizen.

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:09 am**

*sighs wearily, sharpens quill yet again

Do you have a dictionary from 20 years ago?

Within spitting distance of this desk, we keep the 'Oxford' concise; Since 1995 in paperback, back to 1978 in the old hardbacks.
Don't ask me why, but I've just finished checking ALL of the fucking things.

And they're aint one of 'em that aint got "aint".

"The name of the game is power. If you aint playin' power you're in the wrong game"

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:46 pm**

Noonan McKane wrote:Do you have a dictionary from 20 years ago?

Yes. I clearly should have checked it as well.

Noonan wrote:I've just finished checking ALL of [my old dictionaries].

And they're aint one of 'em that aint got "aint".

As does my old 1985 dictionary (bought when I was fourteen ... wow).

You have rebuked this detail of my argument. You have shown me to be too lazy to do fact checking. My entire thesis is now clearly without merit. I bow down before your awe inspiring debate skills.

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:33 pm**

I've said it before; I'll say it again:
Yer a gentleman and a scholar.
While we're at the hat-doffing, I graciously lift mine to your skill with a computer. Being an old fashioned sort, I've only recently taken to this new-fangled interweb (typo was intentional; Don't toast me!); I only got a PC last October. (It got fucking stolen; Got this one about 2 months ago.)
My initial forays into cyberspace only brought juvenile skirmishes with all manner of witless, illiterate no-marks. I toyed with the notion of either selling the bloody thing; Or smashing it to bits.
You've restored my faith in worldwide communication, broad-minded debate and, y'know; All that 'noble' stuff.....
It's an honour to know you, sir. You are a credit to the state of California.

Best regards, NM.

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:48 pm**

i have changed the quiet to greatly......

*walks away*

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:51 pm**

*note to self:

Attempts to find 'new angle' from which to approach covering Glasto should incorporate MORE watching the turns and listening to the music; And LESS trying to look up Jo Wiley's skirt.

*she's always fancied me, I just know it.... What? Supergrass are coming on? I'll be there in 5 minutes.....

Jo! How've ye been?....

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:55 pm**

viola violet wrote:i have changed the quiet to greatly......

I'd have simply changed "quiet" to "quite," but that's just me.

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:57 pm**

what exactly is your avie Noonan ?? It reminds me of the Flogging Molly emblem. I used to work with a girl who always wore a FM tee shirt. She and I never got along. It had nothing to do with her musical taste ( though she was, sadly enough, very partial to Cher.) She was just a lazy bitch who bragged about her upcoming wedding and how she was gonna live off her husband for the rest of her time of earth. Who knows...maybe I envied her.

*we are young, we run green, keep our teeth nice and clean
see our friends, see the sights, feel alright.....*

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:02 pm**

DzM wrote:
viola violet wrote:i have changed the quiet to greatly......
I'd have simply changed "quiet" to "quite," but that's just me.

noonan has a thing for misspellings and the like. surprised he didn't catch that. not sure i will return to this forum. my embarrassment is immeasurable right now. I was unaware that one must be perfect in order to post.....

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:08 pm**

Noonan McKane wrote:Ooooooh! A B-side! You cheater!
I remember it now, a bit ploddy. Muddy production.
I'm looking at the record now. The 12" (RTT 192, fact fans!) also has "Money Changes Everything", one of Johnny's instrumentals.
I probably never told you, (not being a boastful sort) but I've got (with the exception of "This Charming Man", which I lost and couldn't replace) the entire Smiths catalogue. All originals, all mint. I don't know if you're familiar with the saga of the withdrawn copies of "What Diff..." that followed Terence Stamp's taking exception to the use of his image, and how Morrissey replicated the cover, posing as Stamp himself, but up until a couple of years ago I thought my collection included this very item (now VERY scarce).
I bought this record at a record fayre in Glasgow about 1996, paid about 8 pounds (12 dollars?) for it, and noticed at the time how it had been manufactured in Holland by Ariola, but thought nowt of it.
Imagine, then, how offended my indie anorak sensibilities were, when I read in 'Record Collector' that the offending cover was only withdrawn in the UK and USA, and that my 'rare item' is identical to maybe 10, 000 other items!
Wait, though! Don't laugh at me yet! Let me make it worth your while:
A pal of mine, a record dealer whom I hadn't seen in a few years, took a look at this record last year. His verdict?
It's a bootleg.
Apparently there were millions of the fucking things turned out in Europe to cash in on the scarcity of the original. But 'Noonan The Shrewd' doesn't even buy a bootleg of the Rough Trade/Cartel original, (yes, there's millions of them, an' all.) No.
Any old collector can buy a counterfeit copy of a rare, sought-after record; It takes true genius to procure a bootleg of a record that's common as dogshit! I can tell you a story, I can sing you a song, just don't send me out shopping for you!
Great tune, though. (good job!)

this was such an entertaining yarn. so i'm guessing that you have the 'Boy With The Thorn In His Side " single with Truman Capote on the cover ???
That's the only Smiths vinyl single I own.....

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:43 pm**

From whence to commence? (where do I start? Aint I poncy when I put my mind to it!)

My wee avatar is (bites on knuckle, sensibilities offended at failure to recognise) the crest of Glasgow Celtic Football And Athletic Company. Pop. known as "Celtic". The most succesful football club in the world. My 2nd great love (the first can not be named here!)
Further, your pal intended to live off her husband INDEFINETELY? Bloody hell! He must have been HUGE! I'd have thought that she'd have pretty much eaten all of him in 3 months....(suppose she could have frozen a limb or 2, maybe made a salad or nice summer buffet when the weather looked up...)
Further yet..Sure, Noonan's got 'a thing' about spelling, but, FYI, Noonan is not in the habit of nitpicking with his friends...In other words, I'm a bit feart (scared) of how you'd react to my correcting you!
And on...."The Boy With The Thorn....", I'm looking at it now, listening to "Rubber Ring" on side 2. (RTT 191, fact fans!) Did I ever tell you how I was one of the first people outside the band to hear "Thorn.."? Think I did. (Yawn!)

Further yet...Have you ever been to Glastonbury? Listen: I'm like the big polisman in 'The Exorcist'; Ie; I get passes. Get some time off next June, I'll take you. It's quite somethin'....
OK for now. Think we're back on the same page. Find ink and fire back..

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:04 pm**

Believe me kind sir, I shall hold you to the Glastonbury invite. No doubt the dents in the ticket distribution system will have been hammered out by then ( I'm an American that reads NME, hence how I know these things.)
And ah...no....never heard the thorn story. Pray spill all the details.

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:27 pm**

*gasps at suspersions cast upon professional integrity*

Madam, I'm wounded! I can assure you, my Glastonbury tickets are courtesy of an EXTREMELY reliable agency, and are 100% legit. (You aint been able to get in with forgeries since 1997....Erm, so I'm told)
Dig: It's not WHAT you know; It's not WHO you know. It's what you know ABOUT who you know! Ha! The universal language, the eternal debt!
I'm jokin' with you. Seriously, if you fancy spending 4 days in Wiltshire, soaked to the skin, perpetually slightly hungry and overwhelmed by amphetamine psychosis into believing that you have paid far too much for your Tibetan Misery String, I'm yer man.
Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
Peace, sister!

Posted: **Sun Jun 27, 2004 8:40 pm**

As I write, The Czech Republic are 3-0 up on Denmark, with 4 minutes to play, in the 1/4 final of the European Football Championship.
The Czechs look a good prospect to win now. How I wish I'd backed them now. 'Shrewd Noonan' (do you remember him from earlier?)
backed Germany to win (out), and backed Spain at the outside (out. Out even earlier than Germany.)
I can sing you a song, I can tune your motor; Just don't send me to the bookies....

FT: CZECH REPUBLIC 3 DENMARK 0
Koller,
Baros (2).

The Medusa Fora

Member's verse. Waxing poetic. Getting writing again.

Re: I knew I'd come to the right place!

Re: Verse! It's verse!....Copy!

Glastonbury 2004

Re: Message received, loud and clear..

Oh, Grace! (save yer money for the children) Oh, Grace!

Euro 2004