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NY, March 17, 2008

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NY, March 17, 2008 : Part Three

Post Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:12 am

Right after WEW, Kathleen with a K introduced herself and pointed out Cdn Steve. IrishRose arrived. By the time Ollin came out, we had a nice little group of Medusans and Medusans' associates, our spirits even higher after meeting new friends.

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I thought Ollin was (were?) great. They weren't EXACTLY the Mexican Pogues - well, they were at times but they were more than that - the music jumped, with a squeezebox, trumpet, sax, electric guitars, mandolin, a clarinet - hey, they just turned this song into a mazurka! Two of the guys are identical twins, chicano guys who are about 5'2", wearing zoot suits and leaping about. The band is big - eight guys. The sax player was right in front of us, so we were very aware of how much he was WAILING.

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I'd looked them up online beforehand and saw that they usually had a tradition, on St. Patrick's Day, of playing "Rum Sodomy & The Lash" in its entirety. But THIS year, they were in New York City, opening for the Pogues. They'd opened a bunch of West Coast shows last fall, but those were hometown gigs. This must be a huge thrill for these guys, I thought. They sure seemed happy to be there.

They covered a lot of different styles, and their set flew by. The lights came back up and the house music they'd been playing all night - "Love and Theft" - came back on. It seemed odd that they were playing an entire album instead of a DJ or a mix tape, but I love that album. Finally the Clash started playing - "The Call Up" - and the road crew began the Roadie Dance. A guy behind us taunted them mercilessly - "WHOOO!! Check that MIKE! Check check CHECK!!! WHOOOO!!!!" Joey Cashman came out to a rousing cheer from the front row. He flipped us off. Actually I think Kathleen was going to claim he flipped HER off, so I'll amend that to say: Joey Cashman flipped Kathleen with a K the bird.

"The Magnificent Seven" played. The air was electric. We passed around a few wee bottles. That Latino version of "Like A Rolling Stone" played. It seemed to annoy some of the crowd. Is that from Masked and Anonymous? Everyone was READY. "Let's DO this thing," someone said.

(to be continued)
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Re: NY, March 17, 2008

Post Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:21 pm

O'Blivion! You are doing an amazing job of recapturing the night!

Oh, and not only did Joey Cashman flip me the bird, two nights later I actually met him and he was exceedingly rude. Now there's a guy that makes a gal feel special :wink:
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KathleenwithaK wrote:Oh, and not only did Joey Cashman flip me the bird, two nights later I actually met him and he was exceedingly rude. Now there's a guy that makes a gal feel special :wink:


After the show on the 19th Joey was standing in the stairwell that we were walking down and I said "Hello Mr. Cashman", he had a cross on his forehead, not sure why. One of the security guys told my little girls "don't mind the Charles Manson looking guy" to which Joey questioned "Yeah, why is that guy in jail anyway, he didn't kill anybody did he?"
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NY, March 17, 2008 : Part Four

Post Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:56 pm

The sound stopped abruptly. The audience started chanting
"ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba" to approximate the intro to "Straight
To Hell", to chant it into existence, and with it the Pogues.
Seconds later the real song started.

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How perfect is it that Joe Strummer introduces the band
each night? How crucial, that connection. Seeing Joe
Strummer with the Clash as a young man shaped me
more markedly than any other concert I ever attended.
That's a picture I took of the Clash that night up above.
Watching his career interwoven with theirs tipped me
off early in the game that they were The Real Deal. And
now that he and the Clash are gone, where can one go to
most closely commune with his spirit? I was there. Then
and now.

The first verse of the song finished,
the audience chanting along into the
chorus, and then the Pogues took the
stage. Philip at his sartorial best, a
black pinstriped suit of the long cut
he's been favoring, a dark red tie, a
crisply blocked fedora. Everyone looking
sharp...well, Shane looks a little bredaggled,
as if he's been sleeping in his suit every night.
A battered top hat, his hair plastered across
his face, a cigarette flouting the no-smoking
regs, he stumbled to his mike. "Yah, St Patrick
was a fookin' CUNT, right?" We laughed and
cheered and Streams of Whiskey took off at a
brisk clip.

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What an adrenaline rush that first song
always is. They kicked into "If I Should
Fall From Grace With God"
with such force
that you could hear an audible intake of
breath from the audience, and then a big
"whoooah" as it sank in just how great this
show was going to be.

After the Baltimore show I vowed to take
in more details of this one, to remember
as much of everything as I could. And the
first thing I got swept up in was Terry Woods.
Actually that happens every show because I'm
always on his side of the stage. Terry takes such
a workmanlike approach to playing, sleeves rolled
up, keeping eye contact with the other side of the
stage, leaning forward a bit, reeling off an endless
strand of mandolin lines to intertwine with Spider's
whistle and James' mad accordion. Being a bass
player I'm always conscious of how the Pogues' songs
are put together - they're mostly built far differently
than the blues-based stuff I've played all my life.
They're woven, not nailed together. They have a
dirt floor, not a concrete slab.

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Jem's banjo stitches these
songs together with a precision
that keeps all the various jigs &
reels from flying off into space.
I'm always reminded of Joe Strummer
calling Jem the "Bill Wyman" of the
band - I know exactly what Joe meant.


At this point it's obvious that the band is
playing at peak power. Everything is just
freaking PERFECT. And it's unfolding right
in front of us, with absolutely nothing to
obstruct our view, great sound...Kathleen
points out DzM, darting around in no man's
land with his camera. We briefly say hello
and then he's off to the other side.

(Pogues photos by Gregg S)
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Re: NY, March 17, 2008 : Part Four

Post Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:06 am

O'Blivion wrote:It's unfolding right in front of us, with absolutely nothing to obstruct our view, great sound...Kathleen points out DZM, darting around in no man's land with his camera. We briefly say hello and then he's off to the other side.

So there was something obstructing your view, but then he ran away? :)
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Ollin, March 17

Post Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:08 am

Ollin on march 17, opening for The Pogues:

http://photos.dzm.com/v/music/ollin/roseland_2008/

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NY, March 17, 2008 : Part Five

Post Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:44 am

You weren't obstructing anyone's view in the least!

DzM wrote:Ollin on march 17, opening for The Pogues:

http://photos.dzm.com/v/music/ollin/roseland_2008/

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I had the greatest conversation with this guy at the after-show soiree.


Broad Majestic Shannon and Turkish Song Of The Damned were
letter-perfect. I mostly focused on Terry's end of the fantastic tapestry, taking
note of James when he danced past weaving arabesques with his accordion.
Note to self: I must watch a show from Jem's side some time. Although I'm
fully aware how crucial the banjo and whistle are in every song, I haven't
had the opportunity to study Jem and Spider's lines as fully as I have Terry
& Philip's contributions.

Philip, as all good Medusans know, is a consumate artist. Every detail of his
demeanor, attire, choice of instrument (Philip has quite a nice collection of
guitars), and of course his flawless playing (even the incredible triple-time
rhythms the songs often demand) are understated, impeccable and absolutely
perfect.

Again, another example of the Pogues' songs being put together differently
than the stuff I'm used to playing - the guitar fulfills a different role in the
music, more reminiscent (to me anyway) of a guitarist in a big band,
more part of the rhythm section than a lead instrument.

Pair Of Brown Eyes was somewhat rushed, I thought, not that it suffered
for it. (That's probably the closest thing to a complaint you'll hear from me about
this night's performance.) I LOVE this song - the cinematic quality of the lyrics, I
think, is Shane's writing at its best.

What I perceived as an accelerated pace wasn't a bad thing at all. It just seemed
like everyone was really charged up. Dark Streets Of London profited for it.
This year's the first I've heard this one. I love all of the Red Roses tunes that are
in the set.


Tuesday Morning was Shane's first break, and it almost seemed like he
didn't want to go. James came over to play keyboards. This song is one exception
to what I was saying about the way Pogues songs are put together. This one's
built from the ground up, solidly anchored by the bass & drums. I love Jem's banjo
in this, taking more of a lead role. Altogether a very nice change of pace in the
set.

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Sayonara is a song I like better live than on the album. Kitty - Jesus, this
song is beautiful. Red Roses For Me was actually the last Pogues' album I got into,
so the songs off this album are really fresh and exciting for me.

Sunnyside Of The Street - again, Hell's Ditch isn't my favorite album, but they do
this stuff great live.

{And all the while, I'm on the rail, with me best girly by me side, friends old and new all
around. Cdn Steve leans forward with a droll comment from time to time. Kathleen's
husband has joined us. Surely a few more wee nips of the Black Bush wouldn't hurt a
thing...) Repeal Of Licensing Laws starts.

A week earlier Gregg had asked me "are they gonna do Fairytale of New York?" and I said
I don't know, they didn't last year, if they do it anywhere it'll be New York - but listen, don't
be asking that at the show, it'll make you look like a neophyte. Far better to wait
till they start the instrumental, stroke your chin knowingly, and say "Ahhhh, Repeal of
the LIcensing Laws
...

So of course Gregg leaned forward at that moment and said "Ahhhh, Repeal of
the LIcensing Laws
...


Repeal of the LIcensing Laws builds up to an insane gallop, Philip leading
the crowd in the time-honored rock concert staple The Clap.

Philip pointed out that St. Patrick's Day has been celebrated in New York since 1756,
twenty years before there even WAS a United States. He said Terry could vouch for
that because he was there.

Then Thousands Are Sailing - ah, man, what can I say? This has ALWAYS been
a highlight of the show, but this year it's a sacred moment. Moving, powerful,
and downright spiritual. Breathtaking.

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Post Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:19 pm

I can't resist the pedantry - I believe (though may be wrong) that James played accordion for Tuesday Morning. He played keyboard/piano for Love You 'Til The End, Fairytale of New York, and A Rainy Night In Soho. I think.
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DzM wrote:I can't resist the pedantry - I believe (though may be wrong) that James played accordion for Tuesday Morning. He played keyboard/piano for Love You 'Til The End, Fairytale of New York, and A Rainy Night In Soho. I think.


I believe you're right - as the blurry photo shows,
in fact. Because I think Philip plays a telecaster
in Tuesday Morning. Or do I have that detail

fudged too?
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Now what's all this about pederasty?
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O'Blivion wrote:
DzM wrote:I can't resist the pedantry - I believe (though may be wrong) that James played accordion for Tuesday Morning. He played keyboard/piano for Love You 'Til The End, Fairytale of New York, and A Rainy Night In Soho. I think.


I believe you're right - as the blurry photo shows, in fact. Because I think Philip plays a telecaster in Tuesday Morning. Or do I have that detail fudged too?

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Now what's all this about pederasty?


I play a Gibson Tennessean, which is a proper, ramped-up leccy guitar, on "Tuesday Morning" and "Turkish Song". The Godin, a telecaster-shaped electro-acoustic axe, is used only on "Sunnyside Of The Street", as a rule.
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philipchevron wrote:I play a Gibson Tennessean, which is a proper, ramped-up leccy guitar, on "Tuesday Morning" and "Turkish Song". The Godin, a telecaster-shaped electro-acoustic axe, is used only on "Sunnyside Of The Street", as a rule.


Oh, Cripes. I was gonna save my encyclopaedic knowledge of your Gretsch Tennessean for the next installment. When the hell did Gibson start building Tennesseans? Do they make Country Gentlemen now too?

OK, no more details about gear from me. I'll stick with details of my own alcohol intake.

That's probably not even a Vox AC30 you play through either, is it?
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O'Blivion wrote:
philipchevron wrote:I play a Gibson Tennessean, which is a proper, ramped-up leccy guitar, on "Tuesday Morning" and "Turkish Song". The Godin, a telecaster-shaped electro-acoustic axe, is used only on "Sunnyside Of The Street", as a rule.


Oh, Cripes. I was gonna save my encyclopaedic knowledge of your Gretsch Tennessean for the next installment. When the hell did Gibson start building Tennesseans? Do they make Country Gentlemen now too?

OK, no more details about gear from me. I'll stick with details of my own alcohol intake.

That's probably not even a Vox AC30 you play through either, is it?


My Gretsch Chet Atkins Country Gent retired from the road a couple of years ago. Having served several bands over the years starting with a 1960s US garage band called "Wool", it began its Pogues life at Roseland, New York in 1988 or 1989 and is the main guitar on "Peace And Love". It ended its career on the Radiators' most recent album in 2006, once it became clear it was becoming unusually vulnerable to dings and bangs just when its market value was beginning to escalate. It now lives out its retirement in an air-conditioned room in North Dublin, emerging occasionally to assist in the writing of songs. The Gibson Tennessean will do well to give a fraction of the service the Gretsch did.

But that's definitely an AC30. Is there any other kind?
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Post Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:14 pm

What wonderful reviews everyone, pics and all. Seeing this through the eyes of others is as close as some of us will ever get to seeing The Pogues live. Thank you.
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Post Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:57 pm

philipchevron wrote:
But that's definitely an AC30. Is there any other kind?



Well, I didn't really see you as a Super-Beatle kinda guy.

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Could I interest you in one of these?

The VOXMOBILE was to resemble a VOX guitar in silhouette and would create its own high-fidelity audio through the use of self-contained VOX sound equipment. Besides being a beautiful $30,000 show-stopping roadster, the Voxmobile is a completely functional unit in every respect. Its primary purpose is to project this new concept exposing the VOX guitar. This giant amplifier, the Voxmobile, can facilitate no less than 32 compatible VOX guitars with input jacks located along the top of the side body panel and has a VOX dual manual Continental organ mounted in the rear deck area. Power is transformed from the primary source of supply, a 12 volt auto-lite automotive battery, to 110 AC through two 450 watt inverters. The wild guitar sounds are powered by three powerful VOX Beatle amplifiers, complete with reverb, treble/bass boost and mid-range boost. There is an array of speakers hidden in the framework. In all, there are 2 main drive speakers mounted atop the intake manifold, five 12" speakers, one 18" bass speaker and four tweeters. As though this wouldn't suffice a Muntz stereo cartridge tape deck was installed. It houses 6 speakers and modulators and will be used to produce music when you happen not to have a band handy.

In order that the Voxmobile might be utilized to the fullest, special chrome steps were mounted astride the body and along the bottom of the rear deck compartment. These steps make it possible for three guitarists and an organist to belt out appropriate music while the car is being driven in a parade.
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Post Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:34 am

The Pogues on March 17, 2008 at The Roseland Ballroom:

http://photos.dzm.com/v/music/the_pogues/20080317/

At the end William Elliott Whitmore and Ollin join The Pogues for the show finale, Fiesta (I'm particularly entertained by the image of Shane pouring a bottle of white ... something ... into William's mouth in the background of one photo).

This set also has what I think are two of my favorite Pogues pictures. Here's one of them:

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My caption nominations are:
"Ladies and gentlemen; the hardest working accordion player in the world!"
or
"James shrugged."
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