Spin27 wrote:philipchevron wrote:m1cboy wrote: More off the beaten track venues please !
Seconded.
m1cboy wrote: Big shout out to the Buzzcocks who re-kindled the spirit of '76 in a blistering support set.
Seconded.
Hi Phil,
I travelled over from ireland to the greenwich gig at the weekend and have been going to london every year since 04 to see ye and other counrties too. Therefore I would consider myself quite accustomed to a pogues show in many aspects, be it the band or what kind of sound the audience should hear.Although I would always favour different experiences and things off the beaten track, sometimes I think tried and tested is sometimes best.
I watch the buzzcocks and was under the impression that the sound was very poor. Members of the band kept asking for different levels on there monitors and they just seemed to be be-sieged with sound difficulties. However I was nt greatly concerned about this for the headline act.
However when the pogues came on and the music started I was amazed with how low and hollow it sounded. There was no impact or the usual thump of volume that I am used to. There was instruments stuggling to be heard at in my opinion. It improved as the show went on but the sound never reached the levels of normal in my opinion.
This is by no means a band criticism because I thought it was a great performance by all. I was just curious to know was there sound restrictions or was the equipment for the festival just not capable of producing any more volume or quality in sound.
Cheers.
I never feel qualified to answer this question, because I think it must be such a subjective thing. Our sound staff, led by Paul out front and Jac on stage, take the greatest possible pains to make sure everything is operating to their, and our satisfaction. After 30 years Paul, in particular, has no peers when it comes to getting the best sound that can be got from a largely acoustic band which also aspires to The Grand Noise. It has been many, many years since we have ever felt there were improvements to be made in this area, apart from the ones we can influence ourselves as players. But Paul and Jac still keep abreast of technological innovations, alert to any toys that might be applied to Poguetry's advantage. Basically, it's been the
longest time since we have been able to use the "lousy sound" excuse for a poor gig.
Admittedly, sound engineers find that different venues raise different challenges and almost all venues face
some challenges, as only the tiniest fraction of venues used for rock music were designed with those acoustics in mind, which is why we have sound technicians in the first place - their primary function, apart from the obvious one of relaying the sound to all parts of the room, is to use their skill to
compensate for the acoustical limitations of the room and, in some cases, the understage. Paul Scully has long had shorthand codes for his opinion of a venue's sound capabilities which we have come to consider part of his everyday vocabulary. ["Gank!" is possibly the most negatively superlative of these assessments: on a scale of one to ten, Gank is minus one.]
Outdoor shows are a whole nother challenge, as there are few, if any, surfaces, against which the sound can resonate, so sometimes a degree of brute force may be applied. Some local authorities
do set decibel limits, which always border on the unreasonable, especially in Germany. My own experience out front tells me that the outdoor audience member needs to actively seek out a vantage point from which they can best hear the sound to their advantage, as this is likely to be different for everybody.
However, I do feel obliged to say that from both an onstage and front of house point of view, the sound seemed perfectly usual to me on Saturday.