Dranouter 8.8.2010

[Uwe from Berlin]

As for the begrudgers complaining about Shane taking a while to warm up, fuck yez all. Take it or leave it, no one's holding a gun to your head.

Well, I'd have to try VERY hard to remember even one single artist I've seen live in concert, from A like Argerich to Z like Zimmerman, who did NOT take a while to really "arrive" on stage.
And some of them, who used to have their glorious moments (like B for Barenboim e.g.) I've experienced in much worse shape, artistically, than Shane on this current tour, that's for sure.

Glad you liked Berlin, too, by the way!

[Tijl]

I for one thought The Pogues and shane were in perfect condition. To bad some (most?) folks in the audience were expecting a totally recovered heroin, alcohol and what all junk instead of Shane McGowan and thus were very disappointed and reacting accordingley... I had missed the Solomon Burke show because i was dancing my arse of at the Les Bottines Souriantes so i can't admit wether he really stole the karma or if dranouter just changed overnight. Anyways, thanks a lot for finnaly giving dranouter the pogues show it deserved! Hope you all had a good time.

[Maldoror]

http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/2590/Festivals/article/detail/1143099/2010/08/10/The-Pogues-en-Solomon-Burke-met-Joss-Stone-sluiten-36ste-editie-van-Dranouterfestival-af.dhtml

http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail.aspx?artikelid=E22TQPPN&kanaalid=434
(I sent this guy an e-mail to correct all his mistakes.)

I know, it's all in Dutch, but you can already guess what they say, can't you? Good band, bad Shane, so concert not good.

[Mick Molloy]

http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/2590/Festivals/article/detail/1143099/2010/08/10/The-Pogues-en-Solomon-Burke-met-Joss-Stone-sluiten-36ste-editie-van-Dranouterfestival-af.dhtml

http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail.aspx?artikelid=E22TQPPN&kanaalid=434
(I sent this guy an e-mail to correct all his mistakes.)

I know, it's all in Dutch, but you can already guess what they say, can't you? Good band, bad Shane, so concert not good.

So the Pogues are Irish-American now hahaha

[DzM]

http://www.demorgen.be/dm/nl/2590/Festivals/article/detail/1143099/2010/08/10/The-Pogues-en-Solomon-Burke-met-Joss-Stone-sluiten-36ste-editie-van-Dranouterfestival-af.dhtml

http://www.standaard.be/artikel/detail.aspx?artikelid=E22TQPPN&kanaalid=434
(I sent this guy an e-mail to correct all his mistakes.)

I know, it's all in Dutch, but you can already guess what they say, can't you? Good band, bad Shane, so concert not good.

Google comedy translation:

Sunday bulged the 36th edition of the Festival Dranouter with 'Fiesta' by The Pogues. For a steaming party led the group however is not. A sobering experience was, albeit not drankorgel Shane MacGowan. Fortunately, Solomon Burke with Joss Stone earlier in the evening or for a pleasant intoxication.
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Recreational grief. So we felt when we were Sunday at the swooning escapades of major user MacGowan were watching. Would he get the end or not? This question dominated the set. As a visual reference point showed the singer with the eternal dry liver in all respects worthy, but musically he dragged his excellent backing band into the abyss. Lallend as the village idiot around midnight, he worked classics like 'Dirty Old Town' to the flags. MacGowan delirium was so completely at odds with the tight supervision of the other Pogues. A total lack of atmosphere in the tent was too soon due.

Pate Unicenter, though he looked not so much healthier, Solomon Burke was an hour before on stage. Well, read, corpulent soul the preacher continued to the end like a princess sitting in his gold-mounted throne, though he sought it requires constant connection to the public. The singing preacher poured generous with compliments and positive vibes, but also shared roses, jewelry and goodie bags (!) From the tent, and even invited fans to be on stage to dance. Without much success, alas, eventually became just a festival attendees to the Godfather of Soul, which was soon under gentle pressure escorted off the stage.

After a corny version of "That's How I Got to Memphis' soul princess Joss Stone Burke announced on. Her voice harbored lust and suffering enough to "Tell Me What We're Gonna Do Now 'to declare its first climax. The duet 'Do not Give Up On Me "was such a gem, but Stone had the annoying call-and-response game in" Super Duper Love' failure may be just as Burke's clock are not a better voice who had spent schmalzerige version of "What a Wonderful World." The finale of "Everybody Needs Somebody To Love" knit happy a convincing conclusion to the festival weekend. Sin so that one Irish rover waddling after Solomon Burke still kill things would help. (Gunther Van Assche)

Following Burke and Stone was the turn of The Pogues. The legendary Irish-American folk-punk rockers make pure drinking music. And frontman Shane MacGowan was already starting to drink without us. He stumbled on stage drunk, what Lalden in micro and could only use the micro tripod right account.

During opener 'The broad majestic shannon' was a roadie in a burning cigarette MacGowan pushing hands. And his band members sometimes gently pushed him off stage when he no longer knew what to do. Painful.

The real fans were trying to keep the atmosphere, but in the eyes of the other music was especially sorry to read. Only occasionally was it dancing. On "Dirty Old Town 'for example. Or locked song "Fiesta", when at last a pogo burst.

Relegation

During 'Fiesta' had MacGowan also a typical drunken idea. He pleurde the metal plate, which he traditionally had just knocked crooked on his head, the audience. The thing landed a few feet from our heads. After which an electric guitar break was rammed.

To a performance of The Pogues in the year 2010, is seeing your favorite football team play after years of degradation. Your head never even know it is like, but your heart wants to say goodbye.

Oh, maybe we should just be happy that MacGowan has not surrendered on the first rows of fans, as happened once in 2002.

[Maldoror]

So the Pogues are Irish-American now hahaha

And Joey Cashman is a roadie.

[Doktor Avalanche]

"tour managed the Pogues and got out with my sanity intact"

That'd be a great t-shirt.

[Sebastien - Lapin]

it was +/- the 16th time I see the Pogues, but Dranotuer was on of the WORST

I'm a great fan but i'm not blin. For me the band were tired. Mr. Chevron and James Fearnley as usual give more energy but Daaryl Hunt and Spider look very tired.

And Shane yes we know the man but the first songs were very bad, audience can hear and see nothing (light show was terrific for the photographer I'm).

Don't shame the audience, they were surprised and disappointed with this bad start and only enjoy th "thousand are sailing" from Mr Chvron, and "Fiesta" but it was all the end.

But I'm fan forever and hope a better show next time !
See pictures (what we cand o with the lights) on :
http://www.musiczine.net/fr/photos/the- ... 8-08-2010/

[old barney greyheron]

Sebast...you've convinced me...i'm gonna listen exclusively to Barry Manilow and Cliff Richard in future...many thanks xxx

[Rudi]

The audience - and indeed The Pogues - had just been richly entertained by Mr Solomon Burke and his guest Ms Joss Stone and we know when we're beat. Short of building a ginormous throne for Shane to sit on and have him pronounce at length on love and brotherhood, perhaps throwing in the occasional miracle for fun, I could think of no way we could follow that AND restore the audience's energy levels. We played OK though.

Dear Rob,

Indeed, the band played OK and even more: the band ferformed sometimes miracles to catch up with Shane. Many people, like me, came especially on Sunday to see and hear The Pogues. My expectations and that of the majority of the public were not met, although all the efforts of the band and their beautiful performance. But... Shane was really too drunk and his singing was likewise. In my view, the energitic performance of Salomon Burke has nothing to do with the some kind of apathy of the public during your concert. The public was very enthousiastic and eager at the beginning but got more and more disappointed by Shane. He sang only 3 songs at level. Thats is not enough for the Dranouter public.

[philipchevron]

The audience - and indeed The Pogues - had just been richly entertained by Mr Solomon Burke and his guest Ms Joss Stone and we know when we're beat. Short of building a ginormous throne for Shane to sit on and have him pronounce at length on love and brotherhood, perhaps throwing in the occasional miracle for fun, I could think of no way we could follow that AND restore the audience's energy levels. We played OK though.

Dear Rob,

Indeed, the band played OK and even more: the band ferformed sometimes miracles to catch up with Shane. Many people, like me, came especially on Sunday to see and hear The Pogues. My expectations and that of the majority of the public were not met, although all the efforts of the band and their beautiful performance. But... Shane was really too drunk and his singing was likewise. In my view, the energitic performance of Salomon Burke has nothing to do with the some kind of apathy of the public during your concert. The public was very enthousiastic and eager at the beginning but got more and more disappointed by Shane. He sang only 3 songs at level. Thats is not enough for the Dranouter public.

Consider Rob told.

[lavabe]

i cannot understand these endless discussions about shanes condition, shape, look, drunkeness, voice, teeth and so on.....if you are a real fan of the pogues you know what you have to expect or not? if not or you never saw him live you can get disappointed. and in my opinion shane was in a real good form, he looked good with his new haircut and his voice was stronger than in the 90s and he seemed to had fun on stage....the band was fantastic and the audience in dranouter was a little bit strange maybe...cannot say cause i wasn´t there....

[Sebastien - Lapin]

i cannot understand these endless discussions about shanes condition, shape, look, drunkeness, voice, teeth and so on.....if you are a real fan of the pogues you know what you have to expect or not? if not or you never saw him live you can get disappointed. and in my opinion shane was in a real good form, he looked good with his new haircut and his voice was stronger than in the 90s and he seemed to had fun on stage....the band was fantastic and the audience in dranouter was a little bit strange maybe...cannot say cause i wasn´t there....

you was'nt there but you absolutely want to give your opinion and judgement hum hum.
I'm a rela fan and there was a lot of real fan in the Dranouter's audience but we can be blind. Fans can be fervent but also demanding.

[Rob]

"if you are a real fan of the pogues you know what you have to expect or not"

That's exactly the point. The Pogues, as a live-act these days, is really a party for the real fans. Those real fans weren't present in Dranouter in great numbers and the majority of the crowd were just visitors of the dranouter festival, which didn't came especially for the Pogues and also not for Solomon Burke. And The Pogues are not capable of convincing people who are not the real fans. Solomon Burke proved he was capable to do so...............

[philipchevron]

"if you are a real fan of the pogues you know what you have to expect or not"

That's exactly the point. The Pogues, as a live-act these days, is really a party for the real fans. Those real fans weren't present in Dranouter in great numbers and the majority of the crowd were just visitors of the dranouter festival, which didn't came especially for the Pogues and also not for Solomon Burke. And The Pogues are not capable of convincing people who are not the real fans. Solomon Burke proved he was capable to do so...............

Nah, it only shows that Mr Solomon Burke has good old fashioned showbiz chops that can overcome the most inhospitable crowd, a claim we have never, in our awkward, gangling way, really been able to make and which, I suspect, though it works beautifully for Mr Burke, would spell some sort of death-knell to the Pogues if we were ever capable of accomplishing it.

Are you ready to rock, Dranouter? I don't think so, somehow.