R.I.P.s

[left]

Always remember. The terrorists were "refugees" handed welfare and benefits by an overly generous American and MA government.

I’m sorry, what do you mean exactly?

[Low D]

Always remember. The terrorists were "refugees" handed welfare and benefits by an overly generous American and MA government.

I’m sorry, what do you mean exactly?

Good question. The bombers were children or young when they arrived, and to the best of my knowledge their parents have never been accused of or convicted of any crimes, or even of being "radically" religious (although maybe there was an aunt who was?) It appears they became radicalized AS YOUNG AMERICANS LIVING IN AMERICA, imagine that!

[Low D]

Notre Dame Cathedral, born 1160-1260, d. April 15, 2019.

"I'm not dead yet!"

The blaze collapsed the cathedral’s spire and spread to one of its landmark rectangular towers, but Paris fire chief Jean-Claude Gallet said the church’s structure had been saved after firefighters managed to stop the fire spreading to the northern belfry... late Monday, police chief Jean-Claude Gallet said “two thirds of the roofing has been ravaged.” Gallet said firefighters would keep working overnight to cool down the building... signs pointed to the fire nearing an end as lights could be seen through the windows moving around the front of the cathedral, apparently investigators inspecting the scene.
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/euro ... edral.html

[Frances]

Always remember. The terrorists were "refugees" handed welfare and benefits by an overly generous American and MA government.

If you were born in Massachusetts, like me, pretty damn sure your parents were the grandchildren of immigrants.

Ain't nobody buying what you're selling.

[Low D]

29-year-old journalist and author Lyra McKee died after she was shot during rioting in the Creggan area of Derry (aka Londonderry) last night. "The Real IRA" believed responsible.

I've always thought their name reeked of insecurity...

[left]

One wonders wtf is still going on exactly up there in Eire.

[Low D]

Update: CBC just referred to a stray bullet from a "New IRA" shooter, which is just a plain dumb name

[leadshoes]

The "Real IRA's" name just sounds like they're openly advertising that they're the Fake IRA. Ever since I read about the Miami Showband Killings in 1975 where Ulster loyalist forces working for England tried to frame the Miami Showband for IRA violence, it's hard to convince me that any "IRA" violence is truly caused by a "real IRA."

I just looked up her story and was surprised that I remember coming across her blog posts interested in the mystery drownings of young men in the US that some people suspected were ritual killings. That's the kind of subject matter that will get you targeted by those in high places, so I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't exactly "accidental crossfire."

And after being surprised to read that Irish volunteers at the time of Kevin Barry's execution (1920) were in the habit of releasing captured English soldiers after disarming them, I don't know what to believe anymore about any supposed Irish-led violence. Arthur Griffith, the acting Irish president of the time said when he appealed for Kevin Barry's release:

"Under similar circumstances a body of Irish Volunteers captured on June 1 of the present year a party of 25 English military who were on duty at the King's Inns, Dublin. Having disarmed the party the Volunteers immediately released their prisoners. This was in strict accordance with the conduct of the Volunteers in all such encounters. Hundreds of members of the armed forces have been from time to time captured by the Volunteers and in no case was any prisoner maltreated even though Volunteers had been killed and wounded in the fighting, as in the case of Cloyne, Co. Cork, when, after a conflict in which one Volunteer was killed and two wounded, the whole of the opposing forces were captured, disarmed, and set at liberty."

[Low D]

Update: CBC just referred to a stray bullet from a "New IRA" shooter, which is just a plain dumb name

Up-update: 2 suspects in custody, an 18 & a 19 yr old. Who, if guilty, lend credence to the "New" in "New IRA"

[leadshoes]

Whether "guilty" or not, any qualifying adjective before IRA tends to smack of some sort of fake IRA

[Mike from Boston]

Always remember. The terrorists were "refugees" handed welfare and benefits by an overly generous American and MA government.

If you were born in Massachusetts, like me, pretty damn sure your parents were the grandchildren of immigrants.

Ain't nobody buying what you're selling.

Actually, my parents were immigrants. LEGAL immigrants. My father received his citizenship through his father, who though born in Ireland, fought for the US Army in World War I. When my father came here from Ireland, he also served in the US Air Force. When my mother came from Ireland, she was sponsored by her uncle. This was the late 1950's you either got a job or went home. NO Welfare or handouts. Despite my mother being forced to leave school at 12 and my father at 15, and both came here with nothing, they would never take handouts, they had pride and a work ethic.

Frances, just curious, do you ever talk to legal immigrants here in MA about the effects illegal immigration has on them? If you go to any variety store, the majority are owned by (asian)Indians. They and there families work hard. Same thing with most ethnic groups.

You seem to just have a knee jerk reaction to anytime I mention the truth. Is there anything about the statement you quoted that was wrong about the Tsarneav's and there family? Did you know their mother wasn't allowed to attend the trial, because she had outstanding arrest warrants?

[DzM]

These dickheads weren't illegal immigrants. Parts of their family had entered the US on tourist visas, then immediately and legally applied for asylum.

You might disagree with the laws and how they were used (and whether the asylum application was fraudulent), but these shit-sticks were legal.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tsarnaev-refugees/

[Low D]

These dickheads weren't illegal immigrants. Parts of their family had entered the US on tourist visas, then immediately and legally applied for asylum.

You might disagree with the laws and how they were used (and whether the asylum application was fraudulent), but these shit-sticks were legal.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tsarnaev-refugees/

And again misses the point that they came as CHILDREN, and it was living in America that they became radicalized. One imagines after meeting one too many people like Mike.

[Frances]

Same thing with most ethnic groups.

So... which ethnic groups don’t work hard?
Asking for a friend.

[left]

Well, if ethnic groups who don’t work hard actually exist, tell me which one, because (supposing it’s not mine) I’m getting a race conversion! Whoops. Did I say “race”?


P.s.: welfare is not a bad thing, per se. Might be misused, like anything, from coke bottles to internet, but it really isn’t something I can imagine why one would speak about in a negative way. I’m not sure at 12 and 15 what your parents had was “work ethic”? More like something else, I guess?