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Post Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:25 pm

Re.the passing of the 'Rev' Billy Graham,i was definitely more upset when his Irish namesake,the well known Irish broadcaster and writer died a few years ago,then there was the legendary US rock promoter,who did one hell of a job promoting himself.A shame about Billy Jones,though his place in one of Rock's most momentous events is well assured,not quite in the Pete Best class,but certainly more legendary then Jimmy Nicol.
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Post Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:17 pm

Low D wrote: the death of my son's cat, who was killed & eaten by a coyote early Sunday morning, after having snuck outside overnight.


DzM wrote:Each and every one of these has impacted me more than the news of Rev. Billy Graham's death.


Glad to hear sweet Janeaway's death moved you. it. I went out for walk in the snow Friday night, and while spying on a huge owl for 20 min or so waiting to see if he'd fly, i saw the f@#$ing coyote that took her, and yelled like a crazy person (something to the effect of "You BETTER run! GIVE ME BACK MY GRANDKITTY!"), startling a couple British tourists enjoying the owl view. Normally i'm quite pleased to see a coyote.
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Post Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:46 am

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Low D wrote: the death of my son's cat, who was killed & eaten by a coyote early Sunday morning, after having snuck outside overnight.


DzM wrote:Each and every one of these has impacted me more than the news of Rev. Billy Graham's death.


Glad to hear sweet Janeaway's death moved you. it. I went out for walk in the snow Friday night, and while spying on a huge owl for 20 min or so waiting to see if he'd fly, i saw the f@#$ing coyote that took her, and yelled like a crazy person (something to the effect of "You BETTER run! GIVE ME BACK MY GRANDKITTY!"), startling a couple British tourists enjoying the owl view. Normally i'm quite pleased to see a coyote.


Very sorry for your loss, Low D. It does hurt.
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Post Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:02 pm

Thanks FH, i should mention that this wan't "my" cat, it was my son's - although he would bring it over to visit, and we were all sweet on her. I'm as sad for him as for the cat, honestly. Old Molly (Tov Cockatil), our first family cat, is still trucking, about to turn 17.

On the topic of Billy Graham, there's a nice memorial in Rolling Stone:

The Soul-Crushing Legacy of Billy Graham
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/n ... am-w517067

It's positively miraculous how Billy Graham's shiny reputation survived, intact, till the day he died – so much so that even a person as astute as Obama could laud him as an untarnished American treasure. But then Graham was, as a historian friend of mine commented the other day, a "stone hustler from the start," one of the greatest self-promoters ever born. Graham carefully cultivated a reputation for personal integrity and moderation, despite the fact that he was not only a virulent homophobe, but a few other not-so-Godly things as well: Jew-basher, aspiring war criminal, back-stabbing political operator and Christian Dominionist predicting imminent apocalypse, for starters.
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Post Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:41 am

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Post Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:56 pm

Low D wrote:Thanks FH, i should mention that this wan't "my" cat, it was my son's - although he would bring it over to visit, and we were all sweet on her. I'm as sad for him as for the cat, honestly. Old Molly (Tov Cockatil), our first family cat, is still trucking, about to turn 17.

On the topic of Billy Graham, there's a nice memorial in Rolling Stone:

The Soul-Crushing Legacy of Billy Graham
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/n ... am-w517067

It's positively miraculous how Billy Graham's shiny reputation survived, intact, till the day he died – so much so that even a person as astute as Obama could laud him as an untarnished American treasure. But then Graham was, as a historian friend of mine commented the other day, a "stone hustler from the start," one of the greatest self-promoters ever born. Graham carefully cultivated a reputation for personal integrity and moderation, despite the fact that he was not only a virulent homophobe, but a few other not-so-Godly things as well: Jew-basher, aspiring war criminal, back-stabbing political operator and Christian Dominionist predicting imminent apocalypse, for starters.


I have no skin in the game, and don't know much about Billy Graham. But, I do think it would be pretty fair to say that every prominent Christian preacher of his age, including MLK, was a "virulent homophobe". Of course, Obama wasn't exactly on for gay marriage until it was politically safe for him. Curious why he was considered an "aspiring war criminal".
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Mike from Boston wrote:
I have no skin in the game, and don't know much about Billy Graham. But, I do think it would be pretty fair to say that every prominent Christian preacher of his age, including MLK, was a "virulent homophobe". Of course, Obama wasn't exactly on for gay marriage until it was politically safe for him. Curious why he was considered an "aspiring war criminal".


I think the "aspiring war criminal" is a reference to his advise regarding Viet Nam, which was an aspect of his ministry to various presidents that i was not aware of. Indeed, it was their positions of Viet Nam that the led to the split with MLK.
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Low D wrote:
Mike from Boston wrote:
I have no skin in the game, and don't know much about Billy Graham. But, I do think it would be pretty fair to say that every prominent Christian preacher of his age, including MLK, was a "virulent homophobe". Of course, Obama wasn't exactly on for gay marriage until it was politically safe for him. Curious why he was considered an "aspiring war criminal".


I think the "aspiring war criminal" is a reference to his advise regarding Viet Nam, which was an aspect of his ministry to various presidents that i was not aware of. Indeed, it was their positions of Viet Nam that the led to the split with MLK.
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Post Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:51 pm

RIP NME, as the print edition closes down.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/mar/07/nme-ceases-print-edition-weekly-music-magazine

Ok, it's been carp for a long time, and I haven't read it in years (ahem), but still feel a tad sad about this...
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Post Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:42 pm

firehazard wrote:RIP NME, as the print edition closes down.
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I haven't read it in years (ahem), but still feel a tad sad about this...

I think I MIGHT have an idea why it's closing down. Maybe. It seems like there COULD be some kind of cause/effect if we look closely enough.
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DzM wrote:
firehazard wrote:RIP NME, as the print edition closes down.
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I haven't read it in years (ahem), but still feel a tad sad about this...

I think I MIGHT have an idea why it's closing down. Maybe. It seems like there COULD be some kind of cause/effect if we look closely enough.


Yes, I know... hence the slightly guilty ahem...

Another reminder of the seemingly inexorable decline of print media, which always makes me sad too, as I've worked in that area for most of my working life. So perhaps it is all my fault...
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Another reminder of the seemingly inexorable decline of print media, which always makes me sad too, as I've worked in that area for most of my working life. So perhaps it is all my fault...[/quote]

Nah, if you are old like me, just blame the Millenials!
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Mike from Boston wrote:just blame the Millenials!


Always, for anything (unless i'm blaming the boomers already)
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Post Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:33 am

Low D wrote:
Mike from Boston wrote:just blame the Millenials!


Always, for anything (unless i'm blaming the boomers already)


Well the two eldest of the hazardettes, who I guess count as millennials, though I'm never entirely sure what it's meant to mean, were avid NME readers back in the day, which is partly why I kept reading it long after I probably should've. There used to be an enormous pile of copies of it in one of their bedrooms, which were never to be put in the recycling bin because they might contain precious pictures of The Strokes.

I think they've stopped getting it now, because they read almost everything online. So it may be their fault.

Or it may indeed be the fault of the old 'uns who've started reading stuff on bloody kindles because their eyesight isn't what it was and they struggle with the printed page these days...
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