R.I.P.s

[Mike from Boston]

Axl Rose, 52

Sorry, never mind it was a hoax.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/peopl ... 02507.html

[Frances]

Axl Rose, 52

Sorry, never mind it was a hoax.

Good old Bill Bailey.

Was just watching him fall off the stage. @11:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqGU5j7EA3I

Was there in person but don't recall seeing it. I do recall being irritated with his proclamations about other band members. Snooze. Way to take a Stones opening slot and make it all about you. LoL.

He's alright though. In a completely redundant, ADHD child kinda way.











Hi Axl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwUVxzOfV3A

[Low D]

Brian "Wimpy Roy" Goble, singer with (Canadian) Subhumans as well as the longest serving member of DOA, as one of the best punk bassists ever, has died of attack. He was only 57.
http://m.exclaim.ca/News/rip_brian_wimp ... ubhumansdo

Lovely eulogy from DOA's Joey "Shithead" Kiethley here:
http://www.suddendeath.com/

[Mike from Boston]

All the poor souls at the Pakistan school murdered by the Taliban

[firehazard]

RIP Kirsty. Hard to believe it's 14 years now. Always loved, always remembered.

[Fr. McGreer]

RIP Kirsty. Hard to believe it's 14 years now. Always loved, always remembered.

She was being talked about on the radio this morning and they played Fairytale.

I love listening to her version of Days.

[Welshie]

RIP Kirsty, 14 years dont half fly.
Cheers
Aled

[Mike from Boston]

Officers Ramos and Liu NYPD assassinated in cold blood. RIP.

[firehazard]

RIP Joe Strummer. Thirteen years ago today. Never forgotten.

[Low D]

Joe Cocker, up where he belongs, 70.

[Mike from Boston]

Looks like another attack on Freedom by the "Religion of Peace"

Muslim terrorists have killed at least 12 people at a French satirical magazine.

[firehazard]

Looks like another attack on Freedom by the "Religion of Peace"

Muslim terrorists have killed at least 12 people at a French satirical magazine.

It's not an attack by any "religion", it's an appalling act of mass murder committed by a few misguided and malevolent individuals. Let's not try to make political capital of it, whatever our personal beliefs.

RIP all those who died in the attack on Charlie Hebdo, who worked for freedom of speech and against prejudice and hatred shown by representatives of all religions and of none. Solidarity.

[Mike from Boston]

Just stating the facts, not making "political capital" or making a blanket assumption about members of that faith.

There is a major subset of this religion -which has enormous power over the lives of people-something no other faith has-that condones and encourages these acts. Whether it is killing kids for going to school or blowing up people indiscriminately, this movement keeps growing and is a threat to all of the world.

I hate the fact that people want to tiptoe around the fact they are Muslim. I don't have any problem with people attacking the Catholic Church for their child abuse crimes/coverup.

I guess I have seen too much of this in the last few years. Maybe the fact I talked to my friend CH last week-the Duty Sgt. who found Officer Sean Collier's body (assasinated by the Boston Marathon bombers) and see the stress on his face as the remaining bomber finally goes on trial this week, shapes my opinions. It is personal to me.

[Low D]

I would broadly agree with Mike on this one, but i would still caution sensitivity. Leading with "Looks like another attack on Freedom by the 'Religion of Peace"' ".... well, it's not the religion's fault, is it? Those actors have free will and made their choices, no religion put them up to it. i would put the emphasis on the terror, not the religion.

While there is very much a collection of so-called Muslims worldwide who use violence, the majority are peaceful. And indeed the largest group of victims of theocratic muslim extremism are actually other muslims - like all the women of Afghanastan for the last 30 years or so, or the millions of ISIS refugees. The effect of "muslim terror" on the west is NOTHING compared to it's effect on civilians in the muslim world. To paint the entire religion, and by extension all it's adherents, with one brush serves only to dehumanize and re-victimize these people, and deepen the divisions already tearing this world apart.

Many terrorists may put forth a religious framework to justify their actions. It is the job of the rational lot of us to reject that framework (and yes, it's also the job of those who choose to believe in the divine providence of Jesus, Alah, etc to speak out against the mis-use of their religion by violent hate mongers).

Me, i'm an atheist (and honestly more so every year, the way things have been going) so i am not wanting to dismiss religious motivations, because the irrationality is an issue that needs to be addressed. But we also shouldn't over state them. For every GOP war hawk who claims to be doing the work of God, there is a peace-activist christian being hauled off to jail protesting the military-industrial complex.

[firehazard]

..."Looks like another attack on Freedom by the 'Religion of Peace"' ".... well, it's not the religion's fault, is it? Those actors have free will and made their choices, no religion put them up to it. i would put the emphasis on the terror, not the religion...

That's the thing precisely, Low D.

I'm not an apologist for any religion here, and it would be (depressingly easily) possible to compile a list of atrocities carried out by adherents of every major religion (and of none), and often in the twisted belief that they're acting in the name of their belief system.

But when you start describing a religion, and therefore by extension all its adherents, as guilty of such crimes, then you're sharing the mindset of the Islamic extremists devoted to the concept of a "holy war", who categorise all those who don't subscribe to their beliefs as "infidels". And in doing so you're allowing them to achieve their aims.

Anyway, I'm just a commie pinko, so what do I know?

RIP the ten journalists and two police officers (one apparently a Muslim, though that's not important) who were murdered in Paris. Nous sommes tous Charlie.