The Frodo Franchise-Kristin Thompson
It's about movie-making, money-making, power, and The Lord of the Rings. It's killer, natch.
runjohnnyrun wrote:No Country For Old Men
Christine wrote:runjohnnyrun wrote:No Country For Old Men
"It's no place for the old":
There was a suggestion a while ago that this line had something to do with Yeats's "Sailing to Byzantium". Both the book (?) and the film apparently take their title from the poem. Neither seems to be particularly related to "Fairytale of New York" but the lines have to me such a similar ring to them. Is this perhaps too random an association?
philipchevron wrote:runjohnnyrun wrote:No Country For Old Men
Then again, Fairytale of New York itself (the phrase) has very little to do with A Fairytale Of New York (the play/novel). It's something I do myself - using a vaguely resonant reference to enhance allusiveness in a lyric, with no special design that it will cast additional light on the lyric itself. A writer seeks the mood, or the temperature, or some other desirable aspect of the work, and uses whatever means are at his or her disposal to create a sort of emotional shorthand.
Alternatively, not.
In other words, I don't know the answer to the question. So much stuff is lurking in the head of a well-read writer, but the phrase could just as easily have been the quickest route to establishing the location, the time of year and the (in this instance desirable) pure rhyme.
Christine wrote:philipchevron wrote:runjohnnyrun wrote:No Country For Old Men
Then again, Fairytale of New York itself (the phrase) has very little to do with A Fairytale Of New York (the play/novel). It's something I do myself - using a vaguely resonant reference to enhance allusiveness in a lyric, with no special design that it will cast additional light on the lyric itself. A writer seeks the mood, or the temperature, or some other desirable aspect of the work, and uses whatever means are at his or her disposal to create a sort of emotional shorthand.
Alternatively, not.
In other words, I don't know the answer to the question. So much stuff is lurking in the head of a well-read writer, but the phrase could just as easily have been the quickest route to establishing the location, the time of year and the (in this instance desirable) pure rhyme.
Thanks, Philip, yes, I imagined it was not as straightforward as a direct quote, more the mood and atmosphere and general ring. Perhaps it is enough if the resonance is in the audience's mind instead of in the writer's. Lots of subliminal stuff floating around.
Speaking of ring: did you get to hear the Rhinemaidens yet (in both senses)? Did they live up to the reviews?
philipchevron wrote: I am now in the Royal Box.
Christine wrote:philipchevron wrote: I am now in the Royal Box.
Ideological qualms aside, that should be great!
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