DzM wrote:firehazard wrote:Some of them are actually older than me anyway.
I understand they didn't begin the movie that way though.
Thinking about it, I'm sure I was older when the movie finished than I was when it began. Weird, that.
DzM wrote:firehazard wrote:Some of them are actually older than me anyway.
I understand they didn't begin the movie that way though.
firehazard wrote:Thinking about it, I'm sure I was older when the movie finished than I was when it began. Weird, that.
DzM wrote:firehazard wrote:Thinking about it, I'm sure I was older when the movie finished than I was when it began. Weird, that.
Well, that DOES beat the alternative, I guess.
Low D wrote:Over the last few days i have watched/re-watched the Alien franchise:
Alien (1979) - This has held up very well. I saw it in maybe 1981 or 2 on the iMax at Ontario place as a child, and the confusion & disorientation I felt in Giger's strange world remains. The presence of jobs and wages and exploitative companies (ie: capitalism) in space was revelatory to me at the time. They didn't have that in Star Wars (Han Solo is clearly black market economy, doesn't count). Noticed the xenomorph (the alien)'s movements were a bit rubbery, but since you hardly see it, it's irrelevant.
Aliens (1986) - Saw this one in the theatre aged 13, so i was worried it was a vacant action movie that I only liked because i was young and stupid, but it has also held up well. Models & costumes & physical sets - when done well - have aged so much better than the last 20 years of digital effects have. More importantly it was a good story. If the individual characterizations of the marines were a bit hackneyed well that was part of the charm - if perhaps a bit racially stereotypical/reductive in places in a way you couldn't get away with now. The evil company rep is hackneyed too but also charming in the sense that it makes him easier to hate (if he called Ripley "kid" one more time, *I* was gonna smack him). All of these actually added humour that made the film less heavy than the original. Plus the glorious light of a wee girl named Newt to give us hope - "Affirmative!"
ALIEN³ (1992) - Saw this one at the time, didn't even bother to re-watch it because it's just bad. Even if we could forgive them for unceremoniously dispatching Hudson & Newt at the beginning, it was still just a bad movie. However, the concept of the xenomorph interacting with host DNA was a good one, and Ripley taking herself out of the equation at the end was also good. Actually kind of a brave ending for an otherwise stupid movie. Unless they do something stupid like resurrect her somehow for a sequel, but they'd never...
Alien Resurrection (1997) - I had never seen this. I'm sure i've heard a few times that it was "pretty good" but it was just so dumb. There's so much one could do with the xenomorph and the evil company and even the androids... but they couldn't NOT make a Ripley movie because hollywood producers are spineless and brainless. So we get a clone 200 years later that somehow has her memories. Great. The concept of the xenomorph evolving after interacting with host DNA is brought back, sort of. First the queen is 'normal' and produces 'normal' aliens, but then moves on to "stage 2" and gives birth like a human to a new alien? So. Stupid. Joss Whedon wrote this shit? An embarrassment on an already-sullied franchise. It does feature Ron Perlman being Ron Perlman, though, so I guess that's worth a few points.
Oh well on to Ridley Scott's prequels. AND DON'T GET ME STARTED ON RIDLEY SCOTT! How can he be so inconsistent? How could he produce a thoughtful classic like Thelma & Louise at almost the same time as a colonial piece of garbage like 1492? IS HE REALLY TWO PEOPLE ONE IS GREAT THE OTHER IS TERRIBLE? Further investigation required.
Fr. McGreer wrote:Great review. I've only seen the original 1979 movie and that was probably 20 years ago. I won't bother watching the others.
DzM wrote:The others have some interesting ideas but are basically just piles of trash with a small flower trying to grow from the top.
DzM wrote: And then the universe just got screwed by the Alien vs Predator stupidity.
DzM wrote:Prometheus and Covenant are beautiful films. Really gorgeous. And stupid as shit. They would be SO MUCH better if Mr. Scott had just decided to make origin-of-man films and not bother trying to tie them into the Alien universe.
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