The Medusa Fora

territa wrote:Lullaby of the Chocolate City ?! I don't get it.

I grew up (and am now living in) the Maryland suburbs.

One of DC's nicknames is "Chocolate City" in reference to its being a majority-African-American city. During the '50s and '60s, a lotta working-class white families fled DC for the suburbs, leaving a few neighborhoods in Northwest predominately white (and mostly upper-income), the rest of the city predominately black and low- to moderate income. I first remember having heard the nickname "Chocolate City" back in the '70s, when I was in elementary school, but the nickname may have been around before that.

I get the impression that the "Chocolate City" nickname is not well-known outside of the DC area, where people tend to think that "Nobody who lives in Washington, DC is actually FROM there," that Washington, DC is filled with bureaucrats and lobbyists," etc.

philipchevron wrote:"You no fool me, boss......everybody knows there's a no such thing as a Sanity Clause"

And, that, friends, is why the Pogues rule. You wouldn't get an Arctic monkey making a Marx brothers reference.

Thanks, Carol. I also grew up there, in Arlington, in the early '60s, but haven't been back for 35 years.

I guess I should go see what's new in the Smithsonians, I'll bet they've changed a few of the exhibits.

theholyspook wrote:I recently received this info about a new boot.. not sure of quality or artwork.. sure of another crappy title..

THE POGUES / LULLABY OF THE CHOCOLATE CITY -The Pogues USA Tour
2006-
Special Guest : Ella Finer
BACK TO ZERO BTZCD-027-1/2 (2CD) S/S NEW - Aud Recording

PRICE GBP17.99 Order Number = BTZ-027
+ Shipping Cost ....GBP 3.00

Who is trying to sell this bootleg?

WesE wrote:Who is trying to sell this bootleg?

A&J are selling it. Heres their link..... http://www.ajvinyl.com/English/index2.html

It not worth buying it for that price,WesE.

carol wrote:

territa wrote:Lullaby of the Chocolate City ?! I don't get it.

I grew up (and am now living in) the Maryland suburbs.

One of DC's nicknames is "Chocolate City" in reference to its being a majority-African-American city. During the '50s and '60s, a lotta working-class white families fled DC for the suburbs, leaving a few neighborhoods in Northwest predominately white (and mostly upper-income), the rest of the city predominately black and low- to moderate income. I first remember having heard the nickname "Chocolate City" back in the '70s, when I was in elementary school, but the nickname may have been around before that.

I get the impression that the "Chocolate City" nickname is not well-known outside of the DC area, where people tend to think that "Nobody who lives in Washington, DC is actually FROM there," that Washington, DC is filled with bureaucrats and lobbyists," etc.

cheers carol, you learn something new everyday

Celtic.Dave wrote:

WesE wrote:Who is trying to sell this bootleg?

A&J are selling it. Heres their link..... http://www.ajvinyl.com/English/index2.html

It not worth buying it for that price,WesE.

Thanks. For the record though, I'm less about advocating buying bootlegs and more about seeing the smack dab put on those thieves trying to sell them.

Niall wrote:

carol wrote:

territa wrote:Lullaby of the Chocolate City ?! I don't get it.

I grew up (and am now living in) the Maryland suburbs.

One of DC's nicknames is "Chocolate City" in reference to its being a majority-African-American city. During the '50s and '60s, a lotta working-class white families fled DC for the suburbs, leaving a few neighborhoods in Northwest predominately white (and mostly upper-income), the rest of the city predominately black and low- to moderate income. I first remember having heard the nickname "Chocolate City" back in the '70s, when I was in elementary school, but the nickname may have been around before that.

I get the impression that the "Chocolate City" nickname is not well-known outside of the DC area, where people tend to think that "Nobody who lives in Washington, DC is actually FROM there," that Washington, DC is filled with bureaucrats and lobbyists," etc.

cheers carol, you learn something new everyday

A few months ago, New Orleans' Mayor Ray Nagin came under fire for publicly commenting that he wanted to see New Orleans become "a chocolate city" once again. He was referring to the fact that since Hurricane Katrina, a lotta black families who've been in New Orleans for generations have been living elsewhere because their homes are severely damaged by the hurricane itself or by the flooding.

Nagin's comments were controversial because a lotta white New Orleans felt that the mayor was insinuating that they're not wanted or that they're less valued than African-American New Orleanians.

In the DC area, however, some people were (goofily, I think) up in arms over the fact that Nagin had called New Orleans "Chocolate City" when a lotta people in the DC area feel that that nickname is meant for DC and DC only.

I was there, and the show was very special to me. I'll be tracking down that recording. Mr. C. -- I'll gladly send you a check, seriously. You can buy the other guys smoothies.

smokeweed wrote:i will put it up on dime

Dime -EZ Torrent... whatever... I was told this morning that someone on that site was using my photos of the NYC show for the Washington show cd front and back covers! I had no idea... they had never even contacted me or asked for permission. The copyright and info on the photos had been "erased" and they had been cropped. I am pissed off!! I contacted the person, who apologized, and said they had credited me on the back cover - that's not the point. She/he said it these covers were not going to be used again for trades of these bootlegs. I hope not - Ekhard, want to be my lawyer? There is a lot at issue here, not only is my work used without permission, but it is used on bootleg recordings the band is not aware of.

Just venting, sorry.....

Chichi Ramone wrote:

smokeweed wrote:i will put it up on dime

Dime -EZ Torrent... whatever... I was told this morning that someone on that site was using my photos of the NYC show for the Washington show cd front and back covers! I had no idea... they had never even contacted me or asked for permission. The copyright and info on the photos had been "erased" and they had been cropped. I am pissed off!! I contacted the person, who apologized, and said they had credited me on the back cover - that's not the point. She/he said it these covers were not going to be used again for trades of these bootlegs. I hope not - Ekhard, want to be my lawyer? There is a lot at issue here, not only is my work used without permission, but it is used on bootleg recordings the band is not aware of.

Just venting, sorry.....

It is piss takening alright Josie.
I hope its all sorted out.

IM PUTTING THAT IN MY FAVORURITE QUOTES FINTAN

duncan disorderly wrote:IM PUTTING THAT IN MY FAVORURITE QUOTES FINTAN

Wha'? What'd I say? I've been away for a few days...

Nothing you said ! I was on about the Bobby Sands one .It was the first time id noticed it. Although you have come out with some real pearls.Keep em coming .

duncan disorderly wrote:Nothing you said ! I was on about the Bobby Sands one .It was the first time id noticed it. Although you have come out with some real pearls.Keep em coming .

Cheers, Big Fella. I'll keep prising open the old brain-oyster and try and scoop out a few more - holding my breath, and it's down into the mysterious mindcoralreefs we dive...