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We just put out 5 CDs. Waddya want, blood?

philipchevron wrote:We just put out 5 CDs. Waddya want, blood?

New stuff, a covers album!

FAY wrote:PS- I saw Rufus Wainwrights very first professional gig openening for his father in Piermont, NY back in 1991, (I think.)
He played Miss Otis Regrets.

Yeah, well i saw him in Tommy Tricker & the Stamp Traveler (1988) when he was just wee. Martha's in there too. Ok, so i only saw it 2 years ago with my kids, but still! Hilarious. Check it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Tric ... _Traveller

Oh, um, new album... i still say the Pogues should do a dub album! Whoever produced the Dub Ned of The Hill should do it.

I know this has prob came up over and over before but as I'm new to this forum I'll ask it again. Mr Chevron is ever likely that Shane or any of the Pogues will write new material and record something brand new. It's obvious that the band still have it from seein ye live and we all heard shane on Here's to you Ronnie Drew! Also while I'm askin things, will ye be playin any rare ones from the box set this christmas?

DeiseCelt wrote:I know this has prob came up over and over before but as I'm new to this forum I'll ask it again. Mr Chevron is ever likely that Shane or any of the Pogues will write new material and record something brand new. It's obvious that the band still have it from seein ye live and we all heard shane on Here's to you Ronnie Drew! Also while I'm askin things, will ye be playin any rare ones from the box set this christmas?

Sorry, I'm not being evasive or flippant, but I genuinely don't know the answer to any of these questions.

So I guess this one will run and run...

Phillip, you're a legend for responding to so many posts. I really hope you are well and can't wait to see you at Brixton at the weekend. I trust that if new recordings ever are in the offing you will let us know!

Hammersmith Broadway wrote:So I guess this one will run and run...

Phillip, you're a legend for responding to so many posts. I really hope you are well and can't wait to see you at Brixton at the weekend. I trust that if new recordings ever are in the offing you will let us know!

Philip is unfortunately not on this tour but hopefully on the US tour in March. You´ll have a great time at Brixton anyway but Philip will be missed for sure.

Sorry if this has been raised before, but being new here I have to ask why don't the BBC release a CD set of all BBC sessions shuch as Peel, Janice Long etc? I appreciate that some of these tracks were released as part of the boxed set, but there were others that were not, and there may be some unreleased live sessions for the Beeb. I mean if the Beeb can release a 5CD box of the Fall's Peel Sessions through the Sanctuary label, and groups like Killing Joke and JAMC have had like sessions released, why not the Pogues. After all, it may prevent some shoddy bootlegs being released, and a good package with proper liner notes is ALWAYS worth shelling out for. What does anyone think???

Nixon wrote:Sorry if this has been raised before, but being new here I have to ask why don't the BBC release a CD set of all BBC sessions shuch as Peel, Janice Long etc? I appreciate that some of these tracks were released as part of the boxed set, but there were others that were not, and there may be some unreleased live sessions for the Beeb. I mean if the Beeb can release a 5CD box of the Fall's Peel Sessions through the Sanctuary label, and groups like Killing Joke and JAMC have had like sessions released, why not the Pogues. After all, it may prevent some shoddy bootlegs being released, and a good package with proper liner notes is ALWAYS worth shelling out for. What does anyone think???

A Pogues At The Beeb collection was put together by Strange Fruit in 1995 and lacked only one signature - Shane's - to allow it go ahead. Later, the system changed and record companies established some sort of first dibs angle on material recorded for the BBC but available commercially by that record company at the time. A record contract gives a company exclusive rights to an artist's recorded work. So long as the "alternative" BBC recordings are being broadcast for radio, the Beeb recordings needed never be seen as an infringement of that. But as soon as the BBC got into the record business directly.........there were breaches of contract and breaches of trust and breaches of representation happening all over the place.

So, on the substantive matter, there is a great deal less BBC session material available than is commonly believed - the ENTIRE collection, when we requested CDRs from the Beeb for the Box Set, fitted on two CDRs, and that's with some repetition. Moreover, there are an excess of "Sally MacLennanes", "Brown Eyes", "County Hell" etc as it was customary to plug your new single on a radio session. Indeed, there has always been a question over a couple of the alleged BBC tracks and myself, Nick Robbins and James Fearnley have now almost conclusively decided that they are not BBC recordings but good old fashioned tape-swaps - actual studio tracks (but not BBC studios) substituting for a BBC session which was maybe not a success. That gave rise to another mystery, as nobody could identify where the substitute mixes came from (they weren't original album mixes). Also, the Pogues began doing sessions for the BBC in 1984 and stopped, effectively, in 1988, though there are a couple of later sessions of the "unplugged" variety. Once you've subtracted all these variables, you get left with pretty much the 10 or 12 tracks we used on the box set.

I really love The Pogues. They are my favorite band no 1!!! But I feel there its something missing now...
They have been reunited for 8 years and it´s been 14 years since the release of the underrated "Pogue Mahone".
If The Pogues still will make the old and new fans come to the concerts, they need to make a new album!
They are both great songwriters and great musicians, so I doubt they are not able to.
Come on, please give us some new stuff...

The hope for new music has been addressed several times. There is simply not an answer that you are going to be happy with, I know I wasn't. But due to the fact that there obviously won't be any true Pogues material released anytime in the near future...possibly ever, this actually opened up several musical avenues that I would have never discovered otherwise. I have been listening to the Pogues since the late 80's, my 7 year old son can recite pretty much every lyrical song from their entire catalog. True, he will never truly get the full sense of the music without being raised in its prime, but bands such as the murphys, tossers, damien, mundy and bands of those likes have done an adequate job filling in the void for us. Sure, it's like drinking "lite" beer when you are used to stout, but you get what you get and every now and then you will find a real gem. The Murphys continuously get better every album they release (although it has been a while), Tossers, when they are good they are great, and the more traditional side of Irish music is making a nice revival lately. And you can always work backwards as well. The Dubliners, Christy Moore, Clacys and others are obviously where the pogues sound originated from and are all equally enjoyable. Plus artists such as Moore have vast catalogs to pick though with a gem always around the corner. So besides seeing them perform their "best of" stuff every year or so, try to take a road that you may have missed. If you don't you might pass some great music along the way.

RevRob wrote:The hope for new music has been addressed several times. There is simply not an answer that you are going to be happy with, I know I wasn't. But due to the fact that there obviously won't be any true Pogues material released anytime in the near future...possibly ever, this actually opened up several musical avenues that I would have never discovered otherwise. I have been listening to the Pogues since the late 80's, my 7 year old son can recite pretty much every lyrical song from their entire catalog. True, he will never truly get the full sense of the music without being raised in its prime, but bands such as the murphys, tossers, damien, mundy and bands of those likes have done an adequate job filling in the void for us. Sure, it's like drinking "lite" beer when you are used to stout, but you get what you get and every now and then you will find a real gem. The Murphys continuously get better every album they release (although it has been a while), Tossers, when they are good they are great, and the more traditional side of Irish music is making a nice revival lately. And you can always work backwards as well. The Dubliners, Christy Moore, Clacys and others are obviously where the pogues sound originated from and are all equally enjoyable. Plus artists such as Moore have vast catalogs to pick though with a gem always around the corner. So besides seeing them perform their "best of" stuff every year or so, try to take a road that you may have missed. If you don't you might pass some great music along the way.

What a very good post that is... some sound advice in there (no pun intended).

Hello all, by the way...

Just noticed that the thread with postings about wishes for a new album is gone.
One might think that Pogues fans, wanting to hear something new from 8 great musicians,
are asking for too much...But the reunion now seems to be permanent and the band is
touring quite a lot during 2009...so I just can´t help it and gotta ask...Is there any chance at all
that we will here something new from the Pogues?

Jorgen from sweden wrote:Just noticed that the thread with postings about wishes for a new album is gone.
One might think that Pogues fans, wanting to hear something new from 8 great musicians,
are asking for too much...But the reunion now seems to be permanent and the band is
touring quite a lot during 2009...so I just can´t help it and gotta ask...Is there any chance at all
that we will here something new from the Pogues?

Well the general answer to the question since 2001 seems to be "never say never"

But spider has recently been a bit more direct with his "Oh,and there's not going to be another Pogues album, ever. None of us has the inclination" on another thread so i guess that answers the question once and for all.

Am I the only one that understands english like in this whole thread lol... been visiting this site for a while and thought i might as well register... It's been made absolutely clear that Phil and the rest of the band do not know wot the future holds writing new material wise.

Why do people keep keep keep asking phil or pointing hinters, it's obviously gona start winding him up (Cuz it wud to me)

Pogues are yes the top band to hit the record shops I know we all do (listening to the Brilliant 'Teusday Morning' as we speak), but it seems that in alot of the threads on here that people are getting (and i'm sure some will agree) in a way wierdly obsessed... like with the legend himself shane.... seems to me most people on here wud bum him if they saw him in the street lol.

Lets w8 and see wot the future holds and try gettin bit of patience, none of us now wot the stress all the touring they do puts them under. so just chill....

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