What are the chances of any NEW pogues material

[RICHB]

I would like to see the Pogues do a cover album of famous TV theme tunes such as the wonderful 'I could be so good for you' by Dennis Waterman. Others would include the Cheers theme, Man in a Suitcase, The Sweeney (with Shane singing denener denener der der der der) and last but not least the Match of the day theme. On the other hand we could just listen to the wonderful music we have and the wonderful box set full of five discs worth.

[eddymcpre]

RICHB, u've officially lost it my friend... next u'll be asking them to cover eastenders and corrie theme tune.

[philipchevron]

RICHB, u've officially lost it my friend... next u'll be asking them to cover eastenders and corrie theme tune.

Which would be considerably classier than Paul McCartney's cover of the lamentable Crossroads tune.

[Guest]

hehe makes sense, Just watched the old fav live at the town and country club, impressive that strumming on the turkish song of the damned at the end phil, hat off to you sir

[eddymcpre]

Agree with you there guest, Phil knows wot he's doing. always enjoy that peice of the tour at the end of that song... Phil goes wild, wish i could play like that, be doing it all day, james as well on that accordion, what a skill haha

[cilltuama]

I see it being constantly brought up in interviews especially in press for the tour just completed , is there be a new CD in the works ? Usually the answer is - probably not - depends on Shane writing material and the uncertainty that that might come to fruition - the quality of songs living up to the high standards already set by the early material etc ....
Why not record a CD of " Trad Irish Standards - ish " .... it would remove the obstacle of songwriting and musical arrangements to a degree ... for example , The Pogues take on tunes such as Spancil Hill / Courtin in the Kitchen / The Ballad of St.Anne's Reel to name just three out of hundreds of possibilities - even The Long Black Veil would sound great .
I think a similar approach worked well for Damien Dempsey earlier this year with The Rocky Road CD - also Sinead O' Conner with Sean Nos Nua - even Bruce Springsteen applied similar idea to the Seeger Sessions ... Just an idea i thought i would mention Philip , im sure one of many crossing your path .. thanks .

[philipchevron]

I see it being constantly brought up in interviews especially in press for the tour just completed , is there be a new CD in the works ? Usually the answer is - probably not - depends on Shane writing material and the uncertainty that that might come to fruition - the quality of songs living up to the high standards already set by the early material etc ....
Why not record a CD of " Trad Irish Standards - ish " .... it would remove the obstacle of songwriting and musical arrangements to a degree ... for example , The Pogues take on tunes such as Spancil Hill / Courtin in the Kitchen / The Ballad of St.Anne's Reel to name just three out of hundreds of possibilities - even The Long Black Veil would sound great .
I think a similar approach worked well for Damien Dempsey earlier this year with The Rocky Road CD - also Sinead O' Conner with Sean Nos Nua - even Bruce Springsteen applied similar idea to the Seeger Sessions ... Just an idea i thought i would mention Philip , im sure one of many crossing your path .. thanks .

A new Pogues album that did not include a reasonable sample of newly-written songs, in particular new songs by Shane, would be regarded with deep suspicion by fans and critics alike, and I can't say I'd blame them.

[NewJerseyRich]

I see it being constantly brought up in interviews especially in press for the tour just completed , is there be a new CD in the works ? Usually the answer is - probably not - depends on Shane writing material and the uncertainty that that might come to fruition - the quality of songs living up to the high standards already set by the early material etc ....
Why not record a CD of " Trad Irish Standards - ish " .... it would remove the obstacle of songwriting and musical arrangements to a degree ... for example , The Pogues take on tunes such as Spancil Hill / Courtin in the Kitchen / The Ballad of St.Anne's Reel to name just three out of hundreds of possibilities - even The Long Black Veil would sound great .
I think a similar approach worked well for Damien Dempsey earlier this year with The Rocky Road CD - also Sinead O' Conner with Sean Nos Nua - even Bruce Springsteen applied similar idea to the Seeger Sessions ... Just an idea i thought i would mention Philip , im sure one of many crossing your path .. thanks .

A new Pogues album that did not include a reasonable sample of newly-written songs, in particular new songs by Shane, would be regarded with deep suspicion by fans and critics alike, and I can't say I'd blame them.

Mr C, after hearing this so many times.... just to play a little devils advocate with some wishing mixed in.....surely Shane has a notenook or two tucked away somewhere with some jems that could be tweeked for the studio?

[cilltuama]

I see it being constantly brought up in interviews especially in press for the tour just completed , is there be a new CD in the works ? Usually the answer is - probably not - depends on Shane writing material and the uncertainty that that might come to fruition - the quality of songs living up to the high standards already set by the early material etc ....
Why not record a CD of " Trad Irish Standards - ish " .... it would remove the obstacle of songwriting and musical arrangements to a degree ... for example , The Pogues take on tunes such as Spancil Hill / Courtin in the Kitchen / The Ballad of St.Anne's Reel to name just three out of hundreds of possibilities - even The Long Black Veil would sound great .
I think a similar approach worked well for Damien Dempsey earlier this year with The Rocky Road CD - also Sinead O' Conner with Sean Nos Nua - even Bruce Springsteen applied similar idea to the Seeger Sessions ... Just an idea i thought i would mention Philip , im sure one of many crossing your path .. thanks .

A new Pogues album that did not include a reasonable sample of newly-written songs, in particular new songs by Shane, would be regarded with deep suspicion by fans and critics alike, and I can't say I'd blame them.

I'm not sure why you would think it would cause deep suspicion for fans ...... i think the " hardcore " fans would appreciate anything new - a lot of us were raised with old trad songs being played in the background by our parents or siblings / sing songs in pubs etc .. but maybe never grasped the story behind some of them due to the throw-away nature of some recordings by dozens of local irish bands that seemed to put every tune to a waltz beat , killing the emotion of some songs that really were of dark subject material - forced immigration , unemployment , repression etc.
I was a victim of listening but not really hearing lots of songs until The Pogues helped me refocus thanks to takes on songs like Waltzing Matilda around '85... Shane sang it like he had been in the front lines himself , it gave me a whole new appreciation for Liam Clancy that still hasn't left me . I'd guess there are also plenty of " partime " listeners who think Dirty Old Town is a Pogues song about Dublin rather than a McColl song about Manchester ( i think ) ... but thanks to The Pogues maybe they would never otherwise have heard that classic . Last week on the radio i heard the DKMurphy's take on Lanigans Ball - the characters and locations adapted to their own neighbourhood ... i'm sure there are plenty of people who will never know the difference .
As for the critics , i really don't know - thanks to blogging / facebook etc anybody can become a critic easily enough - and a lot of them seem to take the job title to heart
Anyways thanks for reading my original , not so fresh , idea - regardless The Pogues still have my vote - I go to 2/3 live shows a year and it never gets tired for me , thanks .

[RevRob]

Just my $.02...I really don't think anybody would be truly satisfied with the results of a cover album. Even though there are several song renditions the Pogues have done that are "definitive" versions in my view, it's the original music that I adore with a splash of covers/traditionals. The originals are obviously more personal and I believe that is where the connection is from. Dirty Old Town, The Auld Triangle, Matilda, are all great, but put them up against NW3, Streets of Sorrow, Curse of Love, Thousands, etc...no comparison. All these songs give us a peek into the lives and minds of various Pogues members and our imaginations get to fill in the rest. It's a very beautiful thing. Even if Macgowan or Spider were the voice of other Pogues members pens, it's close enough to a direct link to still get the feeling. Look at it a different way, have any of you been overwhelmed by any covers of Pogues songs? Even the legendary Christy Moore...His Aisling, Brown Eyes and FTONY are enjoyable, but I just don't "believe" it, for lack of a better term. The authenticity is just not there. Even the instrumentals, there is genuine personality in each and every one of the instruments. Type in "Pogues covers" on Youtube and file through all the pitiful imitations by people who may very well be quite talented musicians. Although the Pogues are sure to pull off covers that are memorable and even great, I'd rather have the original formula that made the Pogues...The Pogues. I still get chills and tear up when I hear certain Pogues tunes and that is not a figure of speech. That just doesn't happen too often. Why dilute it? But that is just my opinion...

[cilltuama]

Well said RevRob .... The lack of " believable " covers of Pogues tunes definitely rings true ... some are close but just not there ... thanks for your $0.02 .

[firehazard]

Well said RevRob .... The lack of " believable " covers of Pogues tunes definitely rings true ... some are close but just not there ... thanks for your $0.02 .

Damien Dempsey's version of "Rainy Night..." on the album you mentioned above... well, I have to admit to having something of a soft spot for young Damo, but his "Rainy Night..." is absolutely dire.

[cilltuama]

Firehazard - I agree with you on that one , Damo's version is too sugar coated - for a " real " sounding singer he really lost his way on that track .

[philipchevron]

Well said RevRob .... The lack of " believable " covers of Pogues tunes definitely rings true ... some are close but just not there ... thanks for your $0.02 .

Damien Dempsey's version of "Rainy Night..." on the album you mentioned above... well, I have to admit to having something of a soft spot for young Damo, but his "Rainy Night..." is absolutely dire.

Wait till you hear Dickie Rock's version...................

[cilltuama]

Now , that would be worth a listen