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Chicago Sun-Times: A bumpy night

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:33 am
by MacRua
Pogues' lead singer delivers a bumpy night
OVERNIGHT REVIEW | Bandmates can't head off train wreck
March 6, 2008
Chicago Sun-Times
BY DAVE HOEKSTRA dhoekstra@suntimes.com

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The Pogues' reunion tour with lead singer-raconteur Shane MacGowan rolled into the Riviera Theatre on Wednesday night like a drive through Chicago potholes.

The band didn't hit the stage until 9:40 p.m. because MacGowan was missing in action, according to several sources.

After countless versions of the Clash's "Magnificent Seven" on the pre-concert mix, MacGowan finally wandered on stage in a black top hat, black overcoat and cuffed jeans. He wore sunglasses. It appeared MacGowan had been drinking.

He looked like the late Ken Kesey from the Merry Pranksters.

Slurring his words, MacGowan pulled up his pants and launched into what sounded like "Bright Lights." I could be wrong. Next up was a slightly more coherent version of the Pogues' classic punk ballad "If I Should Fall From the Grace of God."

Such inconsistency is a twisted legacy of the Pogues, the punk godfathers to present-day bands such as the Dropkick Murphys and Flogging Mollys. The band's meshing of Irish folk music, traditional jigs and intense rock is still unique. But by the time MacGowan coalesced with the band on "Sunny Side of the Street," the show was half over. And I had to leave because of deadline obligations.

The Pogues return to the Riviera tonight, and perhaps tonight's audience will be more fortunate.

The other seven Pogues performed with integrity and depth. Band founder and tin whistle player Peter "Spider" Stacy stepped in for sweet lead vocals on the band's 1993 pop hit "Tuesday Morning." Stacy was the band's lead singer between 1991 and 2001, when MacGowan was apparently doing more serious damage than on Wednesday night. Accordion player James Fearnley offered extended rock solos while twirling behind a restless MacGowan.

I felt the most empathy for guitarist Phillip Chevron, who had been battling throat cancer for most of the band's 2006 American tour that did not come to Chicago. Chevron can eloquently draw from country, punk and Middle Eastern idioms, and surely he didn't sign up for most of Wednesday's train wreck at the Riviera.

Ironically, Chevron was out with a bleeding ulcer the last time I saw the Pogues with MacGowan, which was around 1987 at the Vic Theater. At that show, he was replaced by Joe Strummer of the Clash. At that time, the guttural pairing of Strummer and MacGowan made sense.

Strummer has since died while in search of a higher calling. MacGowan apparently still finds his muse in the depths of despair.

Re: Chicago Sun-Times: A bumpy night

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:48 am
by dave 81
Another drunken journalist. But hey, Philip is here!!!!!

Re: Chicago Sun-Times: A bumpy night

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:19 pm
by waltzing attila
what a shit review . . . i wish i could punch that guy.

Re: Chicago Sun-Times: A bumpy night

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:05 pm
by Clash Cadillac
What is that comment regarding Joe supposed to mean? I sent this reviewer an e-mail indicating my disappointment with his review.

Re: Chicago Sun-Times: A bumpy night

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:25 pm
by Grievous Angel
I mentioned this in the concert discussion thread, but Dave Hoekstra got a number of things wrong, including the warm-up song, the number of times it was played and the Pogues' opening number. And my personal opinion is that he was off-base as far as Shane's performance. He's normally a good music journalist, but I think he had deadline issues and got all grumpy about the band's late appearance on stage.

Re: Chicago Sun-Times: A bumpy night

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:45 pm
by Clash Cadillac
Clash Cadillac wrote:What is that comment regarding Joe supposed to mean? I sent this reviewer an e-mail indicating my disappointment with his review.


Here was the response I got from Dave.

Clash Cadillac wrote:While I was not there, I have seen the Pogues 7 times in the last 2 years; Boston, Las Vegas (2), Chicago (2) and San Francisco (2).

I read another review of the show this morning that lavished praise on the event. I am inclined to think that your review was off the mark as all the shows I saw were very good. Also, why no mention of Ike Reilly? How was he?


Dave Hoekstra wrote: Thanks for writing.
I've seen nearly 1,000 rock shows.
I just appreciate a little artistic integrity, not to mention starting somewhere near the promised time.
People were walking out and the band seemed embarassed.
You couldn't even understand him.
Dave

Re: Chicago Sun-Times: A bumpy night

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:02 pm
by philipchevron
Seems to me he was up against an unreasonable deadline for a start. Given that, by his own admission, he left the show halfway through, it's questionable whether he could have made his deadline even if we had taken the stage at the "promised" time. He may perhaps be better served having a word with his Editor rather than taking these demands out on the band. It is perfectly normal these days for concert and theatre reviews to appear two days after the event, not hours later as custom had it in days of yore. It is also quite normal, by the way, for critics to request a copy of the set list from artistes' press agents or tour managers, before or after the show, so that clumsy speculation about the content of the show can be avoided.

Re: Chicago Sun-Times: A bumpy night

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:19 pm
by roadhouse
philipchevron Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:02 pm

Seems to me he was up against an unreasonable deadline for a start. Given that, by his own admission, he left the show halfway through, it's questionable whether he could have made his deadline even if we had taken the stage at the "promised" time. He may perhaps be better served having a word with his Editor rather than taking these demands out on the band. It is perfectly normal these days for concert and theatre reviews to appear two days after the event, not hours later as custom had it in days of yore. It is also quite normal, by the way, for critics to request a copy of the set list from artistes' press agents or tour managers, before or after the show, so that clumsy speculation about the content of the show can be avoided.


Well stated Philip while it seems the scribe was paid to do a job of reviewing; it certainly was through a foggy lens and rushed,done poorly to boot!

There is a recently retired reviewer from The Globe near here named Steve Morse and he would show up at gigs on occasion and take the time to ask , ticket buying fans ; are you a fan ,how do you like the show, what do you think of the setlist?

This guy needs to be told his job is not just to review the show from his own narrow perspective, but from a wider lens in my opinion.

Re: Chicago Sun-Times: A bumpy night

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:04 pm
by DzM
I don't think we need to be scratching at old wounds. This is a review from three years ago. Let it go.

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