FoNY in the UK top 40 for the third year in a row!

[MacRua]

All insults have lost a touch with original meaning ages ago.
When we call somebody a bastard we actually hint at anything but his uncertain descent. Or a cunt.. We do not mean somebody literally resembles vagina, right? Obviously faggot in such exchange has nothing to do with sexual preferences of one participants.
But PC upholders have no time to think, they fight...

[Mark_Wafc]

Chris Moyles spent the majority of his breakfast show this morning taking the piss out of the whole affair and calling aled, who is gay, a faggot; well in not so many words.

[philipchevron]

Looks like Pete Tatchell's has got the hump though.

"However, veteran gay rights activist Peter Tatchell said Radio 1's original actions were right.

"The word faggot is being sung as an insult, alongside scumbag and maggot. In this abusive context it is unacceptable," he said. "


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7150693.stm

Silly old poof.

[philipchevron]

Chris Moyles spent the majority of his breakfast show this morning taking the piss out of the whole affair and calling aled, who is gay, a faggot; well in not so many words.

This morning's London Independent, in an editorial slamming the censorship, has this to say:

"If Radio 1 is suddenly serious about tackling the issue of homophobia, it should come down harder on its star DJ, Chris Moyles, when he uses the term "gay" as an insult in his show. It might also take a more robust line on playing the output of certain "gangster" rappers who parade their misogyny and homophobia with twisted pride."

[Eckhard]

This whole affair is so ridiculous. Can't people distuingish anymore between what a character says and the opinion of the author himself?
And isn't FTONY absolutely harmless when compared to the lyrics of most modern hip hop stuff? So what's the drama about a "fagott".

[philipchevron]

:shock: This whole affair is so ridiculous. Can't people distuingish anymore between what a character says and the opinion of the author himself?

One of the many downsides of the Age Of The Celebrity is that the answer to your question probably has to be "No".

[ginggang]

Looks like Pete Tatchell's has got the hump though.

"However, veteran gay rights activist Peter Tatchell said Radio 1's original actions were right.

"The word faggot is being sung as an insult, alongside scumbag and maggot. In this abusive context it is unacceptable," he said. "


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7150693.stm

Silly old poof.

So silly old Pete's saying just as "faggot" is unacceptable, then the same applies to "scumbag" and "maggot".
What am i going to ask for in my local angling store when I want some bait ?
Anyone know the latin name for maggots ?

[Bellabog]

Didn't the BBC make an hour long programme on the making of FONY just a couple of years ago? Wouldn't you have thought they might have listened to the lyrics at that stage?

[Bellabog]

Whoops - sorry, managed to miss the whole thread on that one...

[moose]

Looks like Pete Tatchell's has got the hump though.

"However, veteran gay rights activist Peter Tatchell said Radio 1's original actions were right.

"The word faggot is being sung as an insult, alongside scumbag and maggot. In this abusive context it is unacceptable," he said. "


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7150693.stm

Silly old poof.

Careful Philip you may get prosecuted for being ageist

[philipchevron]

Didn't the BBC make an hour long programme on the making of FONY just a couple of years ago? Wouldn't you have thought they might have listened to the lyrics at that stage?

Well, it's only fair that we distinguish here between "the BBC" and "some silly tosser at BBC Radio One with nothing better to do".

It is, however, true that I personally had the mother of all battles with the silly little researcher from the "Jonathan Ross Show" on BBC TV two years ago - same year as the documentary - when she tried to insist on the "cheap and haggard" version Kirsty and Shane had been talked into in 1991, on the first reissue. I won the battle on points, dismissing this precedent. "That was Kirsty and Shane. This is The Pogues. The Pogues would never have agreed to it. You booked the Pogues." All of this was still going on minutes before we appeared. The Warner Brothers lady was white-going-on-green by this stage, fearing the Beeb would simply fire us altogether. Funny, she started the day Black.

Over at Kirsty's website, they're pointing out that Warners have now PHYSICALLY reissued the single as a CD and Vinyl single (no DVD single this time) and all record shop and online sales (Amazon, HMV etc) - as well as downloads - before Saturday 22nd at 5pm, count in the Christmas wekk chart.

[Brian Boru]

On our way to Manchester Central on Saturday night we drove past a lot of people heading to the MEN to watch Take That , whilst stuck in traffic we had chance to observe the make up of the audience, and my thirteen year old son commented on the number of men who seemed to be attending. I thought I would take the chance to attempt some 'male bonding' with him.
"Son, there are only two types of men who would go to watch Take That" I said. "Henpecked husbands or boyfriends, and Faggots! Make sure you're neither of those!"
Then on we drove to see the Pogues, and to make sure we enjoyed a healthy dose of good old-fashioned homophobic lyrics, and allowed ourselves to conveniently forget that (seeing as he wasn't present) our dear old friend Philip himself may have a touch of the lavender about him.

[maureen]

Before this topic fades away, joining the turkey carcass in the trash where it belongs, I just remembered last night that my grandmother Emily (1904-1997), the one who was in Cumann na mBan, used the word "faggot" frequently as a general term of disapproval of some other oul wan or other, invariably female, as in "that one's just an ould faggot". I never knew where it came from, but it certainly had nothing to do with homosexuality. I was never able to "come out" to my gran, because she genuinely would not have had the faintest idea what I was talking about. Gran, though she lived most of her life in Dublin, was born in Drogheda, Co. Louth which, if it is today an urban sprawl, was a more rural place in 1904. Indeed, it was still quite rural in 1966, when I spent a blissful Summer there. I daresay the oul wans of Shane's Co. Tipperary were simililarly unfamiliar with "faggots" of the politically incorrect kind.

Faggot is still used here on the Isle of Wight when having a moan about a female. I've been called a lazy faggot many a time. In fact I'd always thought that's what Kirsty was singing until the Jonathan Ross debacle started

[Heather]

Before this topic fades away, joining the turkey carcass in the trash where it belongs, I just remembered last night that my grandmother Emily (1904-1997), the one who was in Cumann na mBan, used the word "faggot" frequently as a general term of disapproval of some other oul wan or other, invariably female, as in "that one's just an ould faggot". I never knew where it came from, but it certainly had nothing to do with homosexuality. I was never able to "come out" to my gran, because she genuinely would not have had the faintest idea what I was talking about. Gran, though she lived most of her life in Dublin, was born in Drogheda, Co. Louth which, if it is today an urban sprawl, was a more rural place in 1904. Indeed, it was still quite rural in 1966, when I spent a blissful Summer there. I daresay the oul wans of Shane's Co. Tipperary were simililarly unfamiliar with "faggots" of the politically incorrect kind.

I remember that my mum used to use the term quite a lot when I was a child and she is definitely not homophobic.

[fatbloke]

I thought Faggots were a northern thing you eat with peas?