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-The Jig Is Up

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:03 pm
by Zuzana
The jig is up

Daily Trojan
(Student newspaper of the University of Southern California)
Jen Winston
31/10/2007
Section: Home - Lifestyle

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Irish band The Pogues is huge in Europe, But few Americans have ever heard of it. Here's why you should start paying attention.

Last Tuesday in San Francisco, two belligerent men were escorted from a concert for fighting in the corner. What did the band do? Kept on rocking, of course.

"Oh, everyone was fairly crazy - they were all moshing away," Darryl Hunt said in his Irish accent. He is bassist for the European Celtic rock-act The Pogues, a band consisting of eight musicians who have been together for 25 years.

So why haven't you heard of them?

The band is big in Europe, but then again, so is soccer. It's hard for Americans to relate to the Irish undertones and to understand the nuances of meaning in the traditional songs the band often plays. If you aren't open to foreign music, you probably won't be able to embrace the culture. The Pogues are like a less convenient Flogging Molly, and they play with the intensity of 1,000 Guinnesses. Literally.

Of course there's alcohol involved. No Irish band would be anything without alcohol. If you look hard enough on YouTube, you can find a video of a so-called interview that consists of the lads drunkenly belting out Irish folk songs after a show. If you look even harder, you can find a comment posted about last week's aforementioned concert, describing lead singer Shane MacGowan's struggle to stand up straight.

Maybe the boys should spend less time drinking and more time marketing here in America. They worked their way up in Europe by playing on street corners in the '80s and gradually landed gigs in bars. Now the octuplet finds itself in arenas, opening for fellow Irishmen U2.

"We played in front of 100,000 people," Hunt said of the show, during which they jammed with Joe Strummer of The Clash.

Name-dropping doesn't change the fact that the members of The Pogues are hardly your typical rock stars. Maybe it's the lack of worldwide fame, but Hunt is one of the friendliest people ever to do an interview. His voice is kind and full of experience, and he laughs at all his own jokes.

"What are the cons about being in an eight-person band? Well, if I was in a three piece, I'd only have to split the money with two others," Hunt said.

Hunt has also expressed interest in the DJ club scene, but he keeps that sound away from the band.

"We've got our thing with The Pogues," he said, implying that he is 100 percent satisfied with the band's Celtic sound, even though it keeps them from becoming huge in the United States. Hunt is happy to be where he is, which is something we could all learn from.

"My advice to college students? Don't take drugs," he said. Then, adding, with another chuckle, "But seriously - we're given these gifts in life, and you just have to be creative. It's good for your spirit."

The band also seems to prosper when they stop and say, "But seriously."

"Fairytale in New York," a song that reached No. 2 in the United Kingdom, is about a couple that grows depressingly further apart every Christmas.

"It's a very sad song," Hunt said. "We try to not be miserable, but sad. It's good not to look at life as one big laugh. You need the sad to get the cheer; so, if you're aware of it, sadness is positive."

Whatever your emotions, there's no passport necessary. The Pogues will transport you - if you want to go, that is - to the home of potatoes, James Joyce and shamrocks. Some of those YouTube videos even portray the crowd's moshing as somewhat jig-like.

- The Pogues will play on Wednesday and Thursday at 8:30 p.m. at The Wiltern, 3790 Wilshire Blvd. Tickets are $39.50 -$55. For more information, call 213-380-5005.

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© 2007 Daily Trojan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:08 pm
by philipchevron
Holy Shamrocks, Batman!

"You would think that at least in a student write-up in liberal California, we could dispense with the casual-if-well-meant racism, wouldn't you?" said Philip Chevron in his broad English accent, laughing at his own joke.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:26 pm
by Christine
"Potatoes, James Joyce and shamrocks" – just what I always think of when The Pogues get mentioned. :wink:

Only a pity they're not as "convenient" as Flogging Molly.... What???

It's time you went a-marketing in America. I'm sure you're glad for the advice. :roll:

Re: The Jig Is Up

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:58 pm
by Phoist
Zuzana wrote:Irish band The Pogues is huge in Europe, But few Americans have ever heard of it. Here's why you should start paying attention.



Really? I'm pretty sure that they sell out wherever they play whenever they come to the states.

Re: The Jig Is Up

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:28 pm
by Clash Cadillac
Zuzana wrote:the members of The Pogues are hardly your typical rock stars.


Yes, it's great isn't it.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:44 pm
by Mick Molloy
Hahahahaha this is the worst piece of writing I've read in a long time

Love it

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:47 pm
by Simon Maguire
Hunt doesn't have an Irish accent, he isn't even Irish.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:48 pm
by Cdn Steve
I'm nearly speechless....

If this is what the fine universities of SoCal are producing these days, I fear for the future.

"...lack of worldwide fame..." - where has Jen Winston been? The Pogues are one of the most respected and admired group of songwriters and musicians anywhere, and their albums are regularly listed as favorites by other, "more accessible" artists, such as Tom Waits, Steve Earle...

I could go on, but I'm just too amazed at this poorly researched piece of fluff. Man, this annoys the hell out of me. Maybe she's just a kid, and has grown up in the BritneyParisNewKids bubble, and doesn't know any better .I think I'll try to reply directly to the 'author' of this waste of pixels. There is a place to add comments on the website.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:54 pm
by Shaz
Reads like it's been written by Babelfish. :shock:

Whatever, it's seriously shite . . . Confirms my prejudices about student newspapers. :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:43 pm
by James
philipchevron wrote:Holy Shamrocks, Batman!

"You would think that at least in a student write-up in liberal California, we could dispense with the casual-if-well-meant racism, wouldn't you?" said Philip Chevron in his broad English accent, laughing at his own joke.


'e's a right luvable cockernee sparra. Old Chevvy's gonna smash his telecaster froo a television screen cos 'e don't like wot's goin' dahn, know what I mean?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:14 am
by yinan
What can you expect from someone who wears shirts made out of post-its?

Jen Winston USC '11:
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(photo courtesy of facebook)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:31 am
by Low D
Simon Maguire wrote:1) Hunt doesn't have an Irish accent, he isn't even Irish.


... not to mention that the bulk of the band isn't Irish, and they have been written up, fairly conclusively at this point, i would say, as a London band. Very silly.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:45 am
by Chaitscasey
yinan wrote:What can you expect from someone who wears shirts made out of post-its?

Jen Winston USC '11:
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(photo courtesy of facebook)



that is correct.

Re: The Jig Is Up

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:01 am
by Chaitscasey
Zuzana wrote:The jig is up

No Irish band would be anything without alcohol.

Maybe the boys should spend less time drinking and more time marketing here in America.




This article is absolutely RIDICULOUS. It really doesn't surprise me that it was written by a USC first year. I know a lot of people who go there, and many of them are quite similar to our friend jen here. Don't want to stereotype, though. :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:09 pm
by DownInTheGround
I will be spending the first semester of next year at SoCal. As an excuse for work an my pursuit of understanding politics. I will be tracking him down, rest assured.