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Post Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:20 pm

Adam wrote:I jumped out of my chair when it came on during teh Oscars. It was the best moment of teh whole show.

The only ones who need to approve a song's use are the owner of the publishing and the owner of the master. The record company is probably the latter, and I don't have the CD on hand to see who is the former. Generally it needs to be approved if you are taking the music and using it in a different medium (for example, TV broadcast). The song could be put on a compilation CD with less approval than that. And teh songwriter(s) could easily have given the publisher the right to approve the song's use in their contract, without the publisher being required to contact the writer. So it is certainly possible that none of the Pogues necessarily knew that it was being licensed for use.

(from a guy who has had to license music)


We own the rights to our songs. They are currently licensed to, depending on the author, BMG, Perfect Songs and Wardlaw-Banks. Because we retain the rights, it is likely that permission would be sought from the writer(s) of "Sunnyside Of The Street". As you suggest, Warners control the copyrights in the actual recording,
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Post Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:47 am

philipchevron wrote:If I were to address every issue of this nature that comes up, I would never get any work done. Try estimating how long it took me to write this post.

You'll just have to work with me on this - if I do not respond to a topic within a few days, I probably have nothing more to say on the matter.

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Post Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:13 pm

Look, nobody in this world deserves to hear OUR pogues but US. The other elitists and I on here are really upset that you would stoop sooo low as to allow your music in an advert! And we also know that Cadillac wouldn't continue selling cars if you had not allowed them to use your tunes.
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Like I said on page 1, I think it's awesome personally. If it weren't a Pogues song, it'd just be a song by The Who, Rolling Stones, or some 80s pop sing used a million times and all those people are already millionaires. bout time for the Pogues to get theirs.
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Post Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:47 pm

redandblack78 wrote:Look, nobody in this world deserves to hear OUR pogues but US. The other elitists and I on here are really upset that you would stoop sooo low as to allow your music in an advert! And we also know that Cadillac wouldn't continue selling cars if you had not allowed them to use your tunes.
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Like I said on page 1, I think it's awesome personally. If it weren't a Pogues song, it'd just be a song by The Who, Rolling Stones, or some 80s pop sing used a million times and all those people are already millionaires. bout time for the Pogues to get theirs.


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Post Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:28 am

I appreciate the responses and helping me better understand how these things work.

It’s not like my Pogues world has just collapsed … I’m just sharing how I reacted to seeing the add. My disappointment has nothing to do with being an elitist and I’m not accusing anyone of selling out, it’s more about protecting the song. The longevity and even earning potential of a song I would think are best served if the images and memories it evokes are not replaced by a silly add. In this case an add for a company with shit poor history. I want as many people to hear the Pogues properly as possible but I do not think that the Pogues were best served by this commercial being a potentials fan first listen. This is different then using a song in a film for example as it comes across, to me at least, as an endorsement of a product. If I understand correctly, at the very least the songwriters (Jem & Shane?) had to sign off on this song to be used by GM and I would hope that some thought is given to how and who uses a song and I just can’t see them pimping the streets in their new Escalades. In any case it’s clear my viewpoint is not shared and they have every right to use their music as they see fit, fans will in turn react one way or the other …and judging from the responses in this thread it seems that they have alienated very few fans in the process.
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Post Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:39 am

Stephan - My own position is ambivalence. Yeah, it kinda sucks that a song I've known for nearly half my life is now being used in a car ad. I've reached the point in my life where most fond memories of youth have been soiled by the Internet already. When I mentally categorize this along with Transformers Porn and Furries Porn, this seems a lot less damaging. At least the music is getting plaid, it's not Fairytale of New York (not that there's anything wrong with FONY, but it's nice to see some of the other music getting exposure), and the band are getting paid.

I dunno. I find it hard to build up a good head of indignation over this one.
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Post Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:21 am

I seem to remember years ago reading an article, or "A drink with Shane" and Shane saying how he is a sensible guy because he took his gold records the day he got them and sold them for money at a pawn shop, where as other members of the Pogues where sentimental and kept their records, or let them hang in a bar. I also remember reading about Shane and Victoria saying that they would not have a proper wedding until some tabloid will pay for it, and then pay for the pictures of all the celebrity geusts invited to the wedding. In addition to all that didn't Shane record a version on "My way" for a nike commercial in the UK? While I am shocked their music is being used by some big car company, I am not suprised to see that someone in the band would allow it too happen. By the way, I have not seen the commercial since the Oscars. I do not watch a lot of TV, but I don't think the song will be in danger of getting overplayed...much like the Led Zepplin music a few years back.
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Post Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:12 pm

all I have to say on this commercial thing is at least it's a great song by a great band, and its not some annoying jingle I have to hear over and over...

If I have to hear that Ellen Degenres American Express commercial during the NY Rangers games anymore, I might go insane! :evil:
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Other bands of the era as well

Post Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:35 pm

The The music in an M&Ms ad, and The Buzzcocks in an AARP ad of all things...
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Post Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:20 am

SkaPunkAndOtherJunk wrote:all I have to say on this commercial thing is at least it's a great song by a great band, and its not some annoying jingle I have to hear over and over...


I agree. And I'm impressed that someone sold this marketing pitch. I hope they sell a lot of cars and other people use Pogues music to sell their products. And as a result, I hope a lot of older and young people buy more Pogues music, and enjoy it. And then fuel a new wave of Celtic folk/rock/punk interest.
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Post Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:51 pm

For all of you who think this is a "sell out" or that the commercial degrades a great song, I think you can take solace in the fact that the joke is ultimately on GM, because I have to be certain that they have no idea, and still have no idea, what Shane is singing about. I can hear Shane snickering now. Damn, it's funnier every time I think about it. :D
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Cadillacs

Post Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:32 am

Did I hear "Sunny Side of the Street" on a commercial for a Cadillac today? Or was I imagining this because I've just seen 3 Pogues shows in a row?
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First Led Zepplin...now the Pogues!

Post Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:44 pm

My friend attended the special press preview for the NY Auto Show on Wednesday and heard the Pogues "Sunnyside of the Street" played during the introduction of a new Cadillac product!! Cadillac also features the song in their commerical entitled "Morning Ritual". Here is a link to the commerical:
http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/foo ... nloads.jsp

Who would have ever thought!!
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Post Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:03 pm

I think theres already a thread about this somewhere, don't worry though, I think about my first 5 threads had already been made by someone else. :oops:
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Post Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:57 am

I saw the TV ad. I didn't know what was going on at first. Thought someone had bumped into the CD player.
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