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Post Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:30 pm

Here is an article from the Boston Phoenix from a few days ago. Yes, a variation on the word "dental" is used in the first paragraph. If it has been posted before, please excuse the repetition.

Regaining Shane

The return of the MacGowan Pogues
By: JIM SULLIVAN
3/7/2006 12:00:30 PM


It was 1985 and it was time for a new kind of kick. I did not expect to find it with guys playing tin whistle, banjo, and accordion, and a guy who used to sing for the B-level punk band, the Nips (nés Nipple Erectors) — that would be the dentally challenged Shane MacGowan. Oh, and there would be a diffident female bassist named Caitlin who would later marry (and get divorced from) Elvis Costello. But find it I did.

The first waves of punk rock had come and gone, and new wave had devolved into Culture Club and Duran Duran. I found myself in London early that year, and Frankie Goes to Hollywood had a gig in town. I said no to Frankie and headed to the outskirts, to a club called the Mean Fiddler, to hear a buzzed-about band of London-based Celtic punks, the Pogues. It was physical, but friendly. MacGowan sang lines like “Lend me 10 pounds and I’ll buy you a drink.” He meant it.

I first met MacGowan and the Pogues shortly thereafter at the band’s favorite haunt, Filthy McNasty’s, where I mentioned the contrast between their rich, acoustic instrumentation and Irish melodic lilt on the one hand and their punk fury on the other. “I don’t think there’s that much of a contradiction,” MacGowan said, a drink in each hand. “They’re both about complete, total emotion — blasting out.”

The following year, the band arrived in Boston to play a packed show at Spit (now Axis). It was London all over again, as Irish ex-pats banged up against homegrown punks to the sound of a band who seemed ready to conquer the world. And so it could have been. Unfortunately, MacGowan’s well-publicized problems with drugs and alcohol would take a steady toll on the Pogues’ momentum. He didn’t just sing about “Streams of Whiskey,” he lived them. By ’91, MacGowan, who’d developed a habit of missing gigs, had been given the boot, and except for one tour with Joe Strummer in his place, the Pogues had lost their punk. That is, until recently, when the two parties renewed their partnership and began playing the occasional reunion gig — a development that’s led up to a short US tour that’ll bring the band, with MacGowan up front, to the Orpheum this Tuesday and Wednesday for sold-out shows.

“There was never really any bad blood,” tin-whistle player Spider Stacy tells me over the phone from London. “There really wasn’t. We went our separate ways. It had to happen. And everyone realized that.” Indeed, Stacy and fellow Pogue Jem Finer played on MacGowan’s import-only 2000 solo disc The Snake.


“We’ve always been very close, like a family,” says Finer, who plays banjo, mandolin, and accordion. “But toward the end, things got a bit fractured and some issues came up.”

As Stacy tells it, “When we sacked him, we all went out for dinner afterwards. With the benefit of hindsight, we could have done things differently — take a year off and let everyone recharge their batteries.”

Instead, the Pogues forged ahead through 1996 with Stacy singing lead. They’d made five albums with MacGowan and went on to make two without. The progression was natural: as they moved past their second album, Rum, Sodomy & the Lash, which was every bit the equal of the first, Red Roses for Me, other band members began to write more, and the Pogues moved away from their Celtic/punk beginnings and toward a broader world-music sound. Only the 1991 tour with Strummer came close to matching the explosive folk-punk fusion of the MacGowan-led line-up.

MacGowan’s side of the story has always been tainted with bitterness. When he relaunched his career, he bitched that the band had been hijacked from him and the non-Irish influences imposed by others. Working with a group he christened the Popes, he returned to those Irish roots on The Snake and The Crock of Gold. After a packed-to-the-gills gig at the Harp in 2000, he complained that the head of his British label wouldn’t let him record another album. He was pissed off and just plain pissed.

For a rather sad, trenchant look at MacGowan, check out Sarah Share’s documentary If I Should Fall from Grace with God: The Shane MacGowan Story. MacGowan is unintelligible — subtitle unintelligible. When I spoke to him by phone several years ago, he was impossible to understand. It’s one reason the Pogues’ publicist isn’t offering him up for many phone interviews in advance of this brief East Coast tour of Washington, Boston, and New York.

So how is he these days?

“That’s something Shane has to answer,” says Stacy, taking a graceful dodge.

Finer is more forthcoming: “People have cleaned up their acts,” he says of his old mate and the band in general. “We get along very well. As to Shane, I’m not his nurse. I don’t monitor his intake. But he’s a lot more [like] the Shane I knew and loved [in the early days].”

Although the Pogues have reunited sporadically since 2001 — they played 14 shows last year — the US tour is their biggest move yet. Stacy is clear about the band’s motives: “It’s for the fun and the money. We realized we were beholden to no one but ourselves.” (The line-up includes multi-instrumentalist Terry Woods, guitarist Philip Chevron, bassist Darryl Hunt, and drummer Andrew Ranken.) But there’s no big story behind this tour. “It’s as simple as some promoter got in touch and offered us the work and we said yes,” says Finer. “There’s nothing mysterious about it. We’re not a full-time band. It made me realize there are other ways for bands to exist outside the music business. In the business, you make a record, go on tour, go mad, and then pull the plug. I suppose the Pogues will always exist, but that doesn’t mean we’ll be playing.”

The Pogues | March 14-15 | Orpheum Theatre, 1 Hamilton Place, Boston | 617.228.6000

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Post Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:46 pm

Interesting, Jim Sullivan used to work for the Globe and probably reviewed
most of the Pogues/Shane/Popes shows of the last twenty years. He is a big fan, but this article seems to be a bit on the negative.
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Post Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:21 pm

Again, Philip had a comment regarding a reviewer where he said he had a hard time squaring the Shane he has been around lately with the Shane the reviewer described. So, I guess I will take the decriptions of those that know him over a journalist who references a few years old video. That is not to say I do not like Jim Sullivan, I do, but he is probably given over to shifting day to day moods and feelings as we all are and that must occaisionally show up in his writings.
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Post Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:19 pm

Some fan, is he the right...right...right guy? Can't say I enjoyed his article very much.
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