BBC makes film about "Fairytale of New York"

**Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:27 pm**

dublinrambler wrote:finally got to watch it last night,most enjoyable!

What channel?

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:35 am**

The irony, they make this documentary and have now altered the lyrics of the song to stop offending people, only in this country and only the BBC. Left arm right arm springs to mind :roll:

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:56 am**

moose wrote:The irony, they make this documentary and have now altered the lyrics of the song to stop offending people, only in this country and only the BBC. Left arm right arm springs to mind

Ah yes, but "it's not a blanket ban. It's on a station by station basis." Oh yeah? So who mentioned BAN then?

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:09 am**

philipchevron wrote:
moose wrote:The irony, they make this documentary and have now altered the lyrics of the song to stop offending people, only in this country and only the BBC. Left arm right arm springs to mind

Ah yes, but "it's not a blanket ban. It's on a station by station basis." Oh yeah? So who mentioned BAN then?

Well i really hope that by having a "selective" radio station playlist, the ban theory works and FONY ends up at the coveted No 1 slot for Christmas, not just because it is the best Christmas song in the world ever....but just to see the reaction of people like Simon Cowell if his homogenised creations fail to get there. :lol:

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:19 am**

moose wrote:
philipchevron wrote:
moose wrote:The irony, they make this documentary and have now altered the lyrics of the song to stop offending people, only in this country and only the BBC. Left arm right arm springs to mind

Ah yes, but "it's not a blanket ban. It's on a station by station basis." Oh yeah? So who mentioned BAN then?

Well i really hope that by having a "selective" radio station playlist, the ban theory works and FONY ends up at the coveted No 1 slot for Christmas, not just because it is the best Christmas song in the world ever....but just to see the reaction of people like Simon Cowell if his homogenised creations fail to get there.

There is now, apparently, controversy over whether the X Factor final was rigged in favour of the second favourite. Thousands of people complained they could not get through on the number allocated for the eventual runner-up. Unscientific straw polls on AOL etc do rather indicate that the runner-up was robbed, as he was taking around twice the vote of the winner. If this puts a dent in the X Factor Christmas Number One, fine, but I can't see it being much of a dent. Even in 2004, when "Fairytale" was OFFICIALLY re-released, the X Factor record was outselling Pogues/Kirsty by a factor of 5 to 1. So now it can be told - that's what the value of X is in the X Factor. Five.

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:35 am**

The X Factor is just a load of old bollocks as we know but alas the muppets behind it know they are onto a winner no matter what they do........these fuckers should be done for bringing the music business into disrepute. The most coined phrase on that show is....." its my life..its all I've ever wanted to do in my life is sing...."
Crock of shite......more like....." well fuck it, i can sing a bit but why work my arse of in the pubs n clubs, when i could win a singing competition on TV and make it big."

It was always good to see the competition in the run up to Christmas for the No1.......but its totally devalued in today's climate of X Factor or Plop Idol.

Rant over.......sorry if its out of place on this thread! Simple layman terms........I hope FTONY can top the charts and fuck the BBC too!

Merry Xmas

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:51 pm**

fatbloke wrote:The X Factor is just a load of old bollocks as we know but alas the muppets behind it know they are onto a winner no matter what they do........these fuckers should be done for bringing the music business into disrepute. The most coined phrase on that show is....." its my life..its all I've ever wanted to do in my life is sing...."
Crock of shite......more like....." well fuck it, i can sing a bit but why work my arse of in the pubs n clubs, when i could win a singing competition on TV and make it big."

It was always good to see the competition in the run up to Christmas for the No1.......but its totally devalued in today's climate of X Factor or Plop Idol.

Rant over.......sorry if its out of place on this thread! Simple layman terms........I hope FTONY can top the charts and fuck the BBC too!

Merry Xmas

On the red carpet outside The Point on our way in to collect our Meteor Award a couple of years back, I was waylaid by a TV team from the Irish version [is it called "Euro Star" or something?]. Eagerly pointing their camera at me, the man wiith the microphone breathlessly asked me whether I might have "a few words of encouragement" to the contestants. "Yes", I began, "get the hell out of the business and leave it to us professionals who have never worked as chartered accountants or hairdressers in our lives. You are costing us business, you are costing us earnings, you are costing us prestige and not ONE of you has the slightest discernible talent. Good luck!" I don't think they broadcast it.

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:08 pm**

philipchevron wrote:
fatbloke wrote:The X Factor is just a load of old bollocks as we know but alas the muppets behind it know they are onto a winner no matter what they do........these fuckers should be done for bringing the music business into disrepute. The most coined phrase on that show is....." its my life..its all I've ever wanted to do in my life is sing...."
Crock of shite......more like....." well fuck it, i can sing a bit but why work my arse of in the pubs n clubs, when i could win a singing competition on TV and make it big."

It was always good to see the competition in the run up to Christmas for the No1.......but its totally devalued in today's climate of X Factor or Plop Idol.

Rant over.......sorry if its out of place on this thread! Simple layman terms........I hope FTONY can top the charts and fuck the BBC too!

Merry Xmas

On the red carpet outside The Point on our way in to collect our Meteor Award a couple of years back, I was waylaid by a TV team from the Irish version [is it called "Euro Star" or something?]. Eagerly pointing their camera at me, the man wiith the microphone breathlessly asked me whether I might have "a few words of encouragement" to the contestants. "Yes", I began, "get the hell out of the business and leave it to us professionals who have never worked as chartered accountants or hairdressers in our lives. You are costing us business, you are costing us earnings, you are costing us prestige and not ONE of you has the slightest discernible talent. Good luck!" I don't think they broadcast it.

Nice one Mr C.......I had an arguement on Sunday with a relative. They asked me what the Pogues were like on Saturday night (Manchester), I replied with ..."fucking awesome...& 10 times better than that Saturday night X Factor shower of shite you watch on TV...."

Then I got the same crass stuff about MacGowan been a drunk and the Pogues, this and the Pogues that..etc.....
As I was slightly pissed it was a simple answer.........

"25 fucking years you prick........25 fucking years....let's see where your Leon or any of the other twats are in 25 fucking years!!!"

I then calmly picked up my beer and moved on to circulate with the rest of my family.... :lol:

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:11 pm**

RTE Radio has now taken to poking fun at the BBC. They play a few bars ending with the "bleep" on "faggot" and then the presenters roar with laughter. Great stuff!!

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:13 pm**

philipchevron wrote:RTE Radio has now taken to poking fun at the BBC. They play a few bars ending with the "bleep" on "faggot" and then the presenters roar with laughter. Great stuff!!

The BBC........

The Bunch of Boring Cunts!

:lol:

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:17 pm**

The BBC management met this morning to consider the issue and has decided to stand by the original decision.

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:29 pm**

I'm wondering if this "controversy" will impact the charts at all. the pogues news on the front page of the BBC has to be a good thing, regardless of it's good or bad publicity.

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:30 pm**

philipchevron wrote:The BBC management met this morning to consider the issue and has decided to stand by the original decision.

I wonder which bright spark decided it was time to start editing this song after 20 years of getting played across the airwaves? It really does make you think that the fuckers sat on their fat inflated ego's and salaries really have nothing better to do.

I have posted on the NME web site under the 'Pogues to be censored' story, asking if the ban within the BBC will extend to the various sketch shows which make fun / stereotype homosexuals?
As yet it hasn't gone on.
Are shows such as Little Britain, Catherine Tate both of which have 'gay charactors' deemed to be offensive? Or is the case of censoring FTONY just people being smallminded? And am I in danger of loosing the plot?

Thanx

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:37 pm**

fatbloke wrote:
philipchevron wrote:The BBC management met this morning to consider the issue and has decided to stand by the original decision.

I wonder which bright spark decided it was time to start editing this song after 20 years of getting played across the airwaves? It really does make you think that the fuckers sat on their fat inflated ego's and salaries really have nothing better to do.

I have posted on the NME web site under the 'Pogues to be censored' story, asking if the ban within the BBC will extend to the various sketch shows which make fun / stereotype homosexuals?
As yet it hasn't gone on.
Are shows such as Little Britain, Catherine Tate both of which have 'gay charactors' deemed to be offensive? Or is the case of censoring FTONY just people being smallminded? And am I in danger of loosing the plot?

Thanx

I'm sorry to tell you the BBC, in a hangover from the bad old John Birt days, is CRAMMED with people whose sole job it is to Look Busy. As my friend Declan Lynch wrote in his TV column last Sunday, it makes you hanker for the days when the BBC was full of alcoholic men who took unfeasibly long lunch breaks, sometimes lasting for days at a time, and yet still managed to make some of the most magnificent TV and Radio programmes the world has ever seen and heard.

**Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:39 pm**

I'm not sure if anyone here has access to it, but I'd love to see how FoNY is doing in the midweek charts! I really think with all this publicity, FoNY could get to at least Number Two, if not Number One!

BBC makes film about "Fairytale of New York"

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