1993 Paul McGuinness with the Pogues?

[FAY]

Was Paul McGuinness a Pogue before he was a Pope?

[Low D]

Paul was in the Pogues crew, guitar tech i imagine, and i think sat in at one point for an ill Philip Chevron, if my bootleg collection is accurate. Tom McManamon was also in the crew, and sat in on bass at one point, too, in his days before the Popes.

[philipchevron]

Paul was in the Pogues crew, guitar tech i imagine, and i think sat in at one point for an ill Philip Chevron, if my bootleg collection is accurate. Tom McManamon was also in the crew, and sat in on bass at one point, too, in his days befor the Popes.

I don't remember Paul depping for me at any point, unless you include the David Letterman Show appearance. They asked for Spider "and maybe the guitarist" to perform "Tuesday Morning" on the show with the house band. We had just schlepped across the USA on what would turn out to be my last tour with The Pogues (first time round) and I was in no mood to turn tail and cross the Atlantic AGAIN just for one TV appearance, however "prestigious". In fairness, neither was anybody else in the band, which has, after all, more guitarists than a Les Paul recording session, so Paul McG was sent in my place. It wasn't really fair to Spider, but then, it wasn't very smart of the Letterman people not to request ALL The Pogues in the first place, or to figure out a way to get us on the show while we were already IN the USA. And frankly, I was just exhausted. I had been running on my spare engine only for over a year. I'd had enough.

[Low D]

I don't remember Paul depping for me at any point, unless you include the David Letterman Show appearance. T

Well, according to
http://pogueslive.com/pogues/1992-96.htm
Mad Dog subbed for you on the 11 July 1993 at the Leysin Rock Festival, Leysin, Switzerland, and on a radio broadcast the same day. Just letitn' you know where the rumour started...

[philipchevron]

I don't remember Paul depping for me at any point, unless you include the David Letterman Show appearance. T

Well, according to
http://pogueslive.com/pogues/1992-96.htm
Mad Dog subbed for you on the 11 July 1993 at the Leysin Rock Festival, Leysin, Switzerland, and on a radio broadcast the same day. Just letitn' you know where the rumour started...

Ok, it's possible I guess, but it still sounds unlikely to me.

[clarky]

I don't remember Paul depping for me at any point, unless you include the David Letterman Show appearance. T

Well, according to
http://pogueslive.com/pogues/1992-96.htm
Mad Dog subbed for you on the 11 July 1993 at the Leysin Rock Festival, Leysin, Switzerland, and on a radio broadcast the same day. Just letitn' you know where the rumour started...

Ok, it's possible I guess, but it still sounds unlikely to me.

well.... as i have nothing better to do right now....i think i was actually at this gig..as guitar roadie...i think...it was raining...and les negress verte were on the same bill...and those "la bamba" guys...and the backstage security was done by the local hells angels who all covered their motor bikes with plastic rain coats much to the amusement to Joey Cashman and myself...and it was on top of a big hill...small mountain...whatever...i think...anyway...and if it was the gig i am thinking of, then Phil was playing the guitar !! and i got a tape of this gig from Paul Scully to learn the guitar parts later....i think....

[Alex]

I don't remember Paul depping for me at any point, unless you include the David Letterman Show appearance. T

Well, according to
http://pogueslive.com/pogues/1992-96.htm
Mad Dog subbed for you on the 11 July 1993 at the Leysin Rock Festival, Leysin, Switzerland, and on a radio broadcast the same day. Just letitn' you know where the rumour started...

Ok, it's possible I guess, but it still sounds unlikely to me.

The strange thing is that there's no guitar on quite a few songs or no bass on Star Of the County Down, your backing vocals are also missing as are the songs you wrote.

[Low D]

Obviously, a few of us have too much time on our hands. I think it's hilarious that there are a number of us with various bootlegs and a detailed web site that even gives us enough info that we can even all discuss this. Ohmygod, am i in a cult? Damn, you don't know it's happened to you till you're there...

[Alex]

Ohmygod, am i in a cult? Damn, you don't know it's happened to you till you're there...

Yes, you definitely are!! And once you are in it you can't get out!

[clarky]

Obviously, a few of us have too much time on our hands. I think it's hilarious that there are a number of us with various bootlegs and a detailed web site that even gives us enough info that we can even all discuss this. Ohmygod, am i in a cult? Damn, you don't know it's happened to you till you're there...

this is really very funny

....with regards to the show...like i said...my memory is a bit frosty...but maybe Chevy was not there...i am sure that Paul McG was not there....
so, maybe thats the answer for all your kultig musings...a guitarless gig...

[FAY]

Well, I'm glad I brought this topic up - despite the hazy recollections of both the band members and voeyers alike. Yet, I believe this raises an even bigger question....

Whether one views the Pogues as a "cult," or (as I do), cultural/historical treasure, the legacy of the Pogues deserves to be fact-checked, written, shared, preserved, archived, discussed, analyzed, probed, debated, argued, etc... in PRECISE DETAIL.

No disrespect to Sarah Share, Caroc Clerc, etc., but nobody/nothing can capture all the trivia as well as this forum/medium. Therefore... Let's get it right. Who played what/when/where?!?!?!?!?

Who's commandering this boat/(raft)?

Peace and love.

[Paul Mc guinness]

yes I did play with the Pogues @ leysin and a few other gigs while phil was ill

[Paul Mc guinness]

4 more info on myself r the popes ...my space/maddodrising

[clarky]

yes I did play with the Pogues @ leysin and a few other gigs while phil was ill

so there you are...i stand corrected, direct from the horses mouth, so to speak - and the question is answered !!

[Villajohn]

I saw PAUL McGUINNESS stand in for Philip at The Heineken Festival in Nottingham in JULY 1993 and again at the Dranouter Folk Festival in Belgium the following month,i know i mentioned this in a previous forum,that it was one of the strangest Pogues gigs ever.Amazing that the band are playing there again,i have been to Dranouter four times,the last being in 1996,how i would love to go there once again.