POGUES - North America, March 2009

[ashley]

Does anyone know if the Boston show will be all ages? I've got an 18 year old sister who'd like to come along.

[Irishrose]

Philip Chevron wrote;

"As noted before, the Canada shows we hoped to do in March will not be immediately rescheduled, but we are hopeful that there will be an opportunity sooner rather than later to remedy the cancellation of the other shows. No promises, just hopes.".....................


News Flash

The Government of Canada has recently announced a "Royal Commission" investigating as to WHY "The Pogues" have canceled their gig dates in Toronto and Montreal??

First reports have it that the venue in Toronto have a "no-hat" policy present for all gigs??.............. an anonymous back bencher was quoted " how can true Pogues fans attend a Pogues gig without hats, can one imagine The Pogues performing without hats??...................this is unacceptable, we will make laws to allow for hats, anything the government can do to change these archaic policy of a "no hat venue" will be done??.................this is simply unacceptable for Canadians??

Steven Harpers right hand elections man, is an avid Pogues fan, and he has directly lobbied the prime minister to put aside all other issues to get to the bottom of this situation?? If Canadians are forced to travel far and wide to US destinations and spend their hard earned money, this will have a direct impact on the Canadian economy, this cash drain on our economy is simply unacceptable, he stated "We must be able to see "The Pogues" in Canada, and the government have plans to force promoters to come up with an acceptable contract to fulfill these events??

As for the Montreal gigs, it has been reported that Quebecs language laws have come into effect for that gig??.......from erroneous reports, "The Pogues" in order to play in Montreal were being demanded to all sing in "French"??.......now if anyone thinks its difficult to understand what Shane MacGowan was saying before, can you imagine him speaking /(singing) in French??.........................simply put an unacceptable situation, this has put the Canadian music scene into crisis??

The seriousness of not having The Pogues comes to Canada, is right up there with the issues of the economy, Canadian Pogues fans should be allowed to spend their cash in Canada, another mp was quoted??

Another mp was quoted as saying??......................how can we allow this cash drain on our economy when so many jobs are dependent on people spending money in their own country, this situation must be resolved??

Steven Harper was quoted??.........................this is unacceptable to all Canadian Pogues fans, he has appointed his right hand man to lead the investigation into this cancellation, and with the power of the Canadian Government we are determined to address this situation, so that loyal Canadian Pogues fans will have the opportunity to see their most treasured group perform in Canada??

Stay tuned for further updates??...........................


When i learned that "The Pogues" were canceling their CDN dates, i was so upset it took me less than ten minutes to buy tickets for the 13th in NY, i had the week of the 17th booked off for St Paddys day in New York, so my plans changed and i added another day to my week off??

Speaking of which, how is the City of New York handling their "inquisition" into being slighted on St Patricks day over Washington, by "The Pogues"??.................



"No promises, just hopes."................................cheers to hopes, and never say never??..............


If "hopes" do come through, i will be forced into seeing them again??....dam how will i handle that??.......................


Irishrose.......................................

[Southie777]

Anybody surprised the Boston show is still not sold out?

Honestly, if I didn't visit this forum periodically I would not have known about it. I do not think it's being promoted as much as in in years past. I told a few friends who also did not know.

Couldn't agree more... I have been the one to let all my friends who are Pogues fans know about the show... Not one of them knew about it until I mentioned it... I have yet to see anything about it, except for on this forum... Damn shame...

[philipchevron]

Anybody surprised the Boston show is still not sold out?

Honestly, if I didn't visit this forum periodically I would not have known about it. I do not think it's being promoted as much as in in years past. I told a few friends who also did not know.

Couldn't agree more... I have been the one to let all my friends who are Pogues fans know about the show... Not one of them knew about it until I mentioned it... I have yet to see anything about it, except for on this forum... Damn shame...

I think it has been pointed out elsewhere on these fora that public advertising has not yet begun for our US shows. Naturally, the closer to sell-out they become before the actual event, the less the promoter's general advertising costs will be. Makes sense to me.

[Southie777]

Anybody surprised the Boston show is still not sold out?

Honestly, if I didn't visit this forum periodically I would not have known about it. I do not think it's being promoted as much as in in years past. I told a few friends who also did not know.

Couldn't agree more... I have been the one to let all my friends who are Pogues fans know about the show... Not one of them knew about it until I mentioned it... I have yet to see anything about it, except for on this forum... Damn shame...

I think it has been pointed out elsewhere on these fora that public advertising has not yet begun for our US shows. Naturally, the closer to sell-out they become before the actual event, the less the promoter's general advertising costs will be. Makes sense to me.

Very true... Guess I never thought of it that way...

[Mike from Boston]

Anybody surprised the Boston show is still not sold out?

Honestly, if I didn't visit this forum periodically I would not have known about it. I do not think it's being promoted as much as in in years past. I told a few friends who also did not know.

Couldn't agree more... I have been the one to let all my friends who are Pogues fans know about the show... Not one of them knew about it until I mentioned it... I have yet to see anything about it, except for on this forum... Damn shame...

I think it has been pointed out elsewhere on these fora that public advertising has not yet begun for our US shows. Naturally, the closer to sell-out they become before the actual event, the less the promoter's general advertising costs will be. Makes sense to me.

I did notice there was no mention of the Pogues tickets going on sale in the Phoenix, which is the "alternative" free weekly that advertises most concerts.
Paper is released on Thursday. (I know this because in the past I have cut out the ads and put them in my office like a dork).

Also, the fact that the venue doesn't exist right now could play a part.

[satanicsurferz]

Philip Chevron wrote;

"As noted before, the Canada shows we hoped to do in March will not be immediately rescheduled, but we are hopeful that there will be an opportunity sooner rather than later to remedy the cancellation of the other shows. No promises, just hopes.".....................


News Flash

The Government of Canada has recently announced a "Royal Commission" investigating as to WHY "The Pogues" have canceled their gig dates in Toronto and Montreal??

First reports have it that the venue in Toronto have a "no-hat" policy present for all gigs??.............. an anonymous back bencher was quoted " how can true Pogues fans attend a Pogues gig without hats, can one imagine The Pogues performing without hats??...................this is unacceptable, we will make laws to allow for hats, anything the government can do to change these archaic policy of a "no hat venue" will be done??.................this is simply unacceptable for Canadians??

Steven Harpers right hand elections man, is an avid Pogues fan, and he has directly lobbied the prime minister to put aside all other issues to get to the bottom of this situation?? If Canadians are forced to travel far and wide to US destinations and spend their hard earned money, this will have a direct impact on the Canadian economy, this cash drain on our economy is simply unacceptable, he stated "We must be able to see "The Pogues" in Canada, and the government have plans to force promoters to come up with an acceptable contract to fulfill these events??

As for the Montreal gigs, it has been reported that Quebecs language laws have come into effect for that gig??.......from erroneous reports, "The Pogues" in order to play in Montreal were being demanded to all sing in "French"??.......now if anyone thinks its difficult to understand what Shane MacGowan was saying before, can you imagine him speaking /(singing) in French??.........................simply put an unacceptable situation, this has put the Canadian music scene into crisis??

The seriousness of not having The Pogues comes to Canada, is right up there with the issues of the economy, Canadian Pogues fans should be allowed to spend their cash in Canada, another mp was quoted??

Another mp was quoted as saying??......................how can we allow this cash drain on our economy when so many jobs are dependent on people spending money in their own country, this situation must be resolved??

Steven Harper was quoted??.........................this is unacceptable to all Canadian Pogues fans, he has appointed his right hand man to lead the investigation into this cancellation, and with the power of the Canadian Government we are determined to address this situation, so that loyal Canadian Pogues fans will have the opportunity to see their most treasured group perform in Canada??

Stay tuned for further updates??...........................


When i learned that "The Pogues" were canceling their CDN dates, i was so upset it took me less than ten minutes to buy tickets for the 13th in NY, i had the week of the 17th booked off for St Paddys day in New York, so my plans changed and i added another day to my week off??

Speaking of which, how is the City of New York handling their "inquisition" into being slighted on St Patricks day over Washington, by "The Pogues"??.................



"No promises, just hopes."................................cheers to hopes, and never say never??..............


If "hopes" do come through, i will be forced into seeing them again??....dam how will i handle that??.......................


Irishrose.......................................

By the way, our PM name is Stephen Harper... and we're not as strict about the "language issue" as many English Canadians seem to think... so Shane could be singing/talking in English without any problem (even in Quebec)!

The Pogues should have visited Quebec City this summer for our 400th... that would have been awesome.
I still hoping for a Montréal date though!

And don't worry, I'm just kiding, your post was funny!

[Irishrose]

"By the way, our PM name is Stephen Harper... and we're not as strict about the "language issue" as many English Canadians seem to think... so Shane could be singing/talking in English without any problem (even in Quebec)! "

oops??....... .....a momentary memory lapse caused from by distorted brain cells I'm sure, it was early in the AM and i was only on my second cup of java, , maybe i should go back and edit my post, just in case "Stephen" sends out his henchmen to come and beat the piss out of me for the slight??...................

i just couldn't resist having some fun with the language laws??........................of course i would be more concerned with the "commies" running the city of Toronto, i could just visualize the City of Toronto "smoke police" dragging Shane kicking and screaming from the stage for lighting up during the performance??

"The Pogues should have visited Quebec City this summer for our 400th... that would have been awesome."

agreed that would have been awesome for sure??................................EH....

"I still hoping for a Montréal date though!"

me also as well as many other Canuckleheads for sure??.......................

"And don't worry, I'm just kiding, your post was funny! "

I'm glad you saw the humor in the post as it was meant, there have been quite a few Canuckleheads asking if "The Pogues" were coming to Canada, well not yet, but at least we have "hope"??.................


Irishrose.............................Happy New Year to all ?..........and bring on the North American shows??.....

[KathleenwithaK]

Irishrose!! You MUST come to D.C. for the 17th. It wouldn't be the same without you in the PIT!

[Cdn Steve]

O.K. - it's officially 2009!

Time to start the preparations in earnest. March will be here before we know it. There's multiple Medusan birthdays, springtime, and The Pogues are crossing the pond once again! Hope to see many of you in NYC and DC! I'm wearing out the exclamation key!!

[O'Blivion]

Irishrose!! You MUST come to D.C. for the 17th. It wouldn't be the same without you in the PIT!

I'll have my pockets full of those little airline bottles of Irish whiskey again...they hit the spot, no?

See you at the rail!

[theCOOP]

I'm glad you saw the humor in the post as it was meant, there have been quite a few Canuckleheads asking if "The Pogues" were coming to Canada, well not yet, but at least we have "hope"??.................

Although some Canadian date would be nice for sure, they've been here and done that (Montreal, Toronto & Vancouver at least).

I wouldn't personally consider it a true victory however w/o an east coast show (be it Moncton, NB or Halifax, NS).

Phil & Terry have been here at least, which was awesome and unexpected to say the least. But we've also had plenty of other big names in recent years (Stones, Elton John, and many more) and have completely slighted Celine Dion in recent years (hopefully she'll never come back).

I'd like to say this is the last I'll say about the subject, but we all know it's not.

[philipchevron]

I'm glad you saw the humor in the post as it was meant, there have been quite a few Canuckleheads asking if "The Pogues" were coming to Canada, well not yet, but at least we have "hope"??.................

Although some Canadian date would be nice for sure, they've been here and done that (Montreal, Toronto & Vancouver at least).

I wouldn't personally consider it a true victory however w/o an east coast show (be it Moncton, NB or Halifax, NS).

Phil & Terry have been here at least, which was awesome and unexpected to say the least. But we've also had plenty of other big names in recent years (Stones, Elton John, and many more) and have completely slighted Celine Dion in recent years (hopefully she'll never come back).

I'd like to say this is the last I'll say about the subject, but we all know it's not.

And as enjoyable as Eastern Canada was for Terry and I, and as privileged as we felt to be seeing such wonderful countryside at such close quarters, I don't think either of us had done quite such epic drives across a continent since Pogues European tours in 86/87. As Shane insists on driving everywhere possible (as opposed to flying, a mode of transport he rightly feels to be inhospitable and functional), this automatically imposes massive economic drawbacks on so large a territory as Canada.

[Irishrose]

Irishrose!! You MUST come to D.C. for the 17th. It wouldn't be the same without you in the PIT!

I would love to be at the DC gig as well, but we have NY on the 13th booked, mama wants to go to NY this year??.........ggggggg??............my wife and my daughter on the loose in Manhatton, shopping until "I DROP"??......i was the official "bag boy" last year in NY for my daughter, now at least mama can take over??............hmmm??... forgot about the new leash and collar mama got made for me??.............gawd i may just be official bag boy for both of them??.....

I'am keeping the 14th open of course for any "as of yet to be announced" further gatherings that may occur in NY on the St Paddys day weekend??..............................


Irishrose

[Irishrose]

Irishrose!! You MUST come to D.C. for the 17th. It wouldn't be the same without you in the PIT!

I'll have my pockets full of those little airline bottles of Irish whiskey again...they hit the spot, no?

See you at the rail!

i try to be politically correct when i partake in the Irish spirits, in 2007 i managed to have on hand an imported bottle of the Black Bush, in my flasks??..................it is my usual drink when i visit NI??..................

insert decent pic of "Black Bush"...................

and of course in 2008 my flasks were full of "Jameson's", my drink of choice as well as Guinness when i visit IRE, i really like both of them, to be honest, they both do have the same effect of course??......................HAH

insert decent pic of "Jamesons".....................


would love nothing more than to be "at the rail" once again with all you fine folks??..............we will just have to see how it all plays out in March??........................that was such a blast last year??............


Irishrose