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Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:58 am
by leadshoes
And I'd love to hear Shane's rendition of An Irish Airman Foresees His Death, though I'd hate to create a jinxing situation like I seem prone to do. :(

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:02 am
by leadshoes
Aisling would also be fun to hear, and Eve of Destruction, and their strange version of Japan.

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:29 pm
by Nick M
I remember back in 2008 (?) after the JLTITE box set was released wondering if any of the rarities/unreleased tracks would get an airing - would love to have heard 'Garbo' or 'NW3', but nothing yet. Still, as others have pointed out, I'm happy just to be going again, whatever they play.
As regards this year, if RSL is played in its entirity it will take up a large chunk of the set. Assuming the likes of Streams, IISFGWG, FONY, Soho, Body of an American etc are all played as well, that won't leave room for too much else. Still, the likes of Jesse James, Navigator and Billy's Bones haven't had an airing for a long time......bring it on!!!

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:52 pm
by soulfinger
Drunken Boat
In and Out
Bastard Landlord

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:56 am
by leadshoes
I would love to hear a few Radiators from Space covers besides Song of the Faithful Departed already mentioned:
Enemies
Prison Bars
Television Screen
Walking Home Alone Again

But yeah, they won't have room for much else besides Rum, Sodomy and the usual extras.

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:12 pm
by James Murphy
I know Chevron wanted to keep Pogues and Radiators seperate, so I think the band will probably honour that.

I'd love to hear Body of An American, my favourite song. But, I think we're just guaranteed the album list, Fairytale & Fiesta. Anything else is a bonus.

Interesting to see the track list of the album is one that means Shane doesn't have to relearn very many old lyrics.

Navigator
Billy's Bones
Gentleman Soldier
Waltzing

are the only ones that haven't stuck around in Pogues & Popes setlists for this century. And he gave a very respectable Waltzing at the last go out. Probably very familiar through listening to it for decades by the Dubliners, so that's a good sign for Gentleman Soldier, which although being a challenging song the way the Pogues did it, with the character's voice changes, should be fairly well grooved into the MacGowan brain via Luke Kelly. Navigator and Billy's Bones, in particular, are, I think, going to be troublesome, but it's very clever how little strain they're putting onto Shane in choosing this album.

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:38 am
by leadshoes
James Murphy wrote:I know Chevron wanted to keep Pogues and Radiators seperate, so I think the band will probably honour that.

I'd love to hear Body of An American, my favourite song. But, I think we're just guaranteed the album list, Fairytale & Fiesta. Anything else is a bonus.

Interesting to see the track list of the album is one that means Shane doesn't have to relearn very many old lyrics.

Navigator
Billy's Bones
Gentleman Soldier
Waltzing

are the only ones that haven't stuck around in Pogues & Popes setlists for this century. And he gave a very respectable Waltzing at the last go out. Probably very familiar through listening to it for decades by the Dubliners, so that's a good sign for Gentleman Soldier, which although being a challenging song the way the Pogues did it, with the character's voice changes, should be fairly well grooved into the MacGowan brain via Luke Kelly. Navigator and Billy's Bones, in particular, are, I think, going to be troublesome, but it's very clever how little strain they're putting onto Shane in choosing this album.


It's too bad if Phil really wanted that. Some Radiators songs really deserve to be heard by a wider audience and this is a way for that to happen. And not only is it "clever" to pick Rum, Sodomy for Shane's sake, it's an absolutely classic in its own right and deserves a special tribute like this. But you're right, and I think Billy's Bones and Gentleman Soldier are the only real challenges because of the rapidfire pace of the lyrics. Navigator and Waltzing Matilda both have memorable lyrics of a narrative sort and an easy pace that make them less difficult to commit to memory, even for a faulty brain like my own. And hopefully since Poguetry in Motion was from that time period, we will hear Body of an American. I'd love that, too.

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:54 am
by James Murphy
leadshoes wrote:
James Murphy wrote:I know Chevron wanted to keep Pogues and Radiators seperate, so I think the band will probably honour that.

It's too bad if Phil really wanted that. Some Radiators songs really deserve to be heard by a wider audience and this is a way for that to happen.


I think I half remember the idea that Shane wanted the Pogues to do Faithful Departed and Phil put the kibosh on it, but that's entirely possibly the demented outpourings of my diseased mind. But I can see both points of view. The Radiators From Space were a great band and did a good job of realising Phil's songwriting, but they didn't make the impact in the culture that the Pogues would go on to, and Chevron, as an artist and a legacy seperate from the Pogues, was in danger of seeing his contributions to the later band overshadow his ageless earlier records, maybe even watch the Radiators From Space dissolve into a footnote to MacGowan's body of work, due to working association. In a just world, someone of his talents would have had all eras of their career celebrated equally and I think keeping the two ongoing endeavours seperate was a canny effort to correct the trend. Through all that, though, I'd love to hear the Pogues take on those Rads song because I think they could live a long life beyond the old LPs. But I also feel like that might be a little patronising to the boys from Dublin, who I'm sure are justly proud of their place in the Philip Chevron story.

And not only is it "clever" to pick Rum, Sodomy for Shane's sake, it's an absolutely classic in its own right and deserves a special tribute like this.


Agreed, it's actually kind of above the rest of the discography, like Lou Reed's Transformer. If they want to spend this next year rehearsing Red Roses for December 2014, there'll be no complaints from me, though.

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:27 pm
by Fr. McGreer
I think you both may be very surprised at how well Shane does Billy's Bones and Gentleman Soldier.

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:42 pm
by firehazard
James Murphy wrote:... If they want to spend this next year rehearsing Red Roses for December 2014, there'll be no complaints from me, though.


Yes please.

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:59 pm
by RICHB
Bring on the Hells Ditch tour :)

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:13 pm
by leadshoes
Yep, how about a Red Roses in Hell's Ditch tour. And they can throw some Peace and Love into the Ditch for good measure. Maybe Shane could even wear a flaming dress for Hell's Ditch. Or maybe I could. I know I'd love to.

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:15 pm
by leadshoes
Fr. McGreer wrote:I think you both may be very surprised at how well Shane does Billy's Bones and Gentleman Soldier.



I wouldn't be. He did a very respectable Poor Paddy for that Lone Ranger thing.

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:26 pm
by firehazard
leadshoes wrote:Yep, how about a Red Roses in Hell's Ditch tour. And they can throw some Peace and Love into the Ditch for good measure. Maybe Shane could even wear a flaming dress for Hell's Ditch. Or maybe I could. I know I'd love to.


Blimey. I think I'd be willing to wear a flaming dress for a Hell's Roses tour.

[Or should it be Red Ditch? Or Red Love Ditch, but that sounds rude.]

Re: Songs you hope they play in December

PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 12:14 am
by leadshoes
firehazard wrote:
leadshoes wrote:Yep, how about a Red Roses in Hell's Ditch tour. And they can throw some Peace and Love into the Ditch for good measure. Maybe Shane could even wear a flaming dress for Hell's Ditch. Or maybe I could. I know I'd love to.


Blimey. I think I'd be willing to wear a flaming dress for a Hell's Roses tour.

[Or should it be Red Ditch? Or Red Love Ditch, but that sounds rude.]


:lol:
If I had a flaming dress on hand I'd wear it to Brixton next week. :)
And Red Love Ditch does sound very rude. :lol: