Summer, 2011

[Funkfuzzi]

Any chance watching that croatian news show online??
Enjoy the show!!

Well, I would not call it a show, this is actually central informative programme (Dnevnik - daily news at 19.30). Here's the link http://www.hrt.hr/?id=enz&tx_ttnews[cat]=119, you can see short piece about Pogues starting at 24:50 and see James and Sipder talking with the journalist in their hotel. Darryl was there too. Since this is actually political programme, news about pop-culture rarely find its place in it. But, like I said two months ago, we like Pogues here in Croatia. Show is, according to my informations, sold out.
Thanks.

Thanks a lot. Nice one. Though my Croatian is very bad ;o)

[vigo-zg]

Thanks a lot. Nice one. Though my Croatian is very bad ;o)

You are welcome. I wonder what will guys do this two days in Zagreb, maybe Philip could give us some info. I hope someone will drive them to the sea for a swim. It's damn hot this days in the city, we have 35C for a whole week.

[Funkfuzzi]

Maybe some croatian whale fisheries or just a Fiesta on the sunnyside of the Street...

[Nemanjic]

Thanks a lot. Nice one. Though my Croatian is very bad ;o)

You are welcome. I wonder what will guys do this two days in Zagreb, maybe Philip could give us some info. I hope someone will drive them to the sea for a swim. It's damn hot this days in the city, we have 35C for a whole week.

Not sure if rest of the pirate crew know to swim, just keep away Shane from the sea. See you tomorrow

[Ingrid]

Hello from Germany und sorry for my bad English!
I've seen the Pogues in Amsterdam and in my opinion it was a very intense gig wiht a lot of power, especially by the first two songs. I love it.

But sorry, I can't understand, why everybody say, Shane is/was in great shape...
What is "in great shape" in your opinion??
He is an ill man wiht pathological moves, his voice is fucked up and every two oder three songs, he need a break....
Yes, he ist not fallen down, and he is not so drunk than 1995 in pinkpop festival, of course...

But in great shape?
Look at Iggy Pop, for example, HE is in great shape!

Best regards!

Hallo Andreas, hello to all the others. Please forgive me, when I answer to Andres in German, but my english is not good enough to explain, what I write in German now:

Hai Andreas,

ich hoffe, Du hattest einen ebenso tollen Abend wie wir in Bonn.
Nun zu Deinen Fragen/Anmerkungen. Viele von uns bezeichnen Shane in (sehr) guter Verfassung, da wir alle noch Erinnerungen an seine Auftritte Ende der 80er/Anfang der 90er haben. Ich erinnere mich an ein Festival (Headliner: Ramones), wo er auf die besoffen auf die Bühne geschlichen kam, bei jedem Lied seinen Einsatz mindestens einmal versaute und bei "Summer in Siam" musste der "Maestro" drei- oder viermal sein Klavier-Intro wiederholen, bis Shane seinen Einstieg endlich auf die Kette kriegte. An das entsetzt-verärgerte Gesicht von Jimmy Fearnley kann ich mich bis heute erinnern - diese Tempo-Selbstzerstörung war einfach nur furchtbar und er war fleissig dabei, sein eigenes Grab zu schaufeln. Umso mehr freut es uns, das der Mann überhaupt noch lebt und in der Lage ist, aufzutreten. Anscheinend hat er seinen Alkoholkosum drastisch reduziert, in Bonn hatte er lediglich zu "Fiesta" ein- oder zweimal aus seiner Weinflasche genippt. Da die Show in Amsterdam ja sehr gut war, wird er sich wohl auch nicht nach dem Auftritt in Bonn die Kante gegeben haben.

Shane sagt von sich selbst, dass er seit dem 14ten Lebensjahr betrunken war, das wären fast 40 Jahre. In diesem Zusammenhang muss man Shane als krank bezeichnen, den Alkoholismus ist eine Krankheit. Dazu kam anscheinend noch ein Schlaganfall (...was für eine Überraschung...) und ob Shane ein vorbildlicher Reha-Patient war, steht wohl in den Sternen. In Bonn war Shane nüchtern, hat nicht einen Einsatz verbockt, war für seine Verhältnisse relativ aktiv auf der Bühne und johlte sogar bei einigen Textpassagen. Als er zu seinen Pausen die Bühne verliess, musste er nicht von jemandem in Empfang genommen werden, der ihn dann zu seinem Platz begleitete. Letztes Jahr in Münster (auch nüchtern!!!) musste ihm noch beim Gehen geholfen werden, was neben seinen Alk- und Drogeneskapaden auch durch seinen Schlaganfall bedingt war. Dieses Mal ging er allein und seine Schritte waren (für seine Verhältnisse) recht kraftvoll. Deswegen bezeichnen wir Shane als in "(sehr) guter Verfassung". Seine Pausen gönne ich ihm von Herzen und Songs wie "Thousands...", "Repeal..."und "Tuesday..." möchte ich auf keine Fall missen. Das sind nur drei Lieder, wo er nicht dabei ist und bei einem Set von 21 Songs ist das eine respektabele Leistung.
Jetzt habe ich aber auch genug gelabert!!
Viele Grüße,

Bud

Hi Bud,

thank you for trying to explain "planet Shane" to us. Some bits are great but some bits are just rubbish. However, I know where you are coming from but better do not believe everything that's written in the German press (well, ANY press). I have already written to the paper in question because they need to set things right.

[Mieke]

Hi Bud,

thank you for trying to explain "planet Shane" to us. Some bits are great but some bits are just rubbish. However, I know where you are coming from but better do not believe everything that's written in the German press (well, ANY press). I have already written to the paper in question because they need to set things right.

Hi Ingrid, could you explain what you mean? Because I am interested, I don't know so much about Shane and his history, but I'm interested to know what you mean.

[redadeg]

Hi Bud,

thank you for trying to explain "planet Shane" to us. Some bits are great but some bits are just rubbish. However, I know where you are coming from but better do not believe everything that's written in the German press (well, ANY press). I have already written to the paper in question because they need to set things right.

Hi Ingrid, could you explain what you mean? Because I am interested, I don't know so much about Shane and his history, but I'm interested to know what you mean.

I planed to ask the same question to Ingrid, too.
Thanks for typing, Mieke.

@Ingrid: Could you explain more exatelc, please?
Which paper do you mean?

[ray6900]

Shane got a stroke???

[vigo-zg]

Phillip opened new topic about Zagreb show just few minutes after it ended viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11586

[Johnno]

Hello from Germany und sorry for my bad English!
I've seen the Pogues in Amsterdam and in my opinion it was a very intense gig wiht a lot of power, especially by the first two songs. I love it.

But sorry, I can't understand, why everybody say, Shane is/was in great shape...
What is "in great shape" in your opinion??
He is an ill man wiht pathological moves, his voice is fucked up and every two oder three songs, he need a break....
Yes, he ist not fallen down, and he is not so drunk than 1995 in pinkpop festival, of course...

But in great shape?
Look at Iggy Pop, for example, HE is in great shape!

Best regards!

Hallo Andreas, hello to all the others. Please forgive me, when I answer to Andres in German, but my english is not good enough to explain, what I write in German now:

Hai Andreas,

ich hoffe, Du hattest einen ebenso tollen Abend wie wir in Bonn.
Nun zu Deinen Fragen/Anmerkungen. Viele von uns bezeichnen Shane in (sehr) guter Verfassung, da wir alle noch Erinnerungen an seine Auftritte Ende der 80er/Anfang der 90er haben. Ich erinnere mich an ein Festival (Headliner: Ramones), wo er auf die besoffen auf die Bühne geschlichen kam, bei jedem Lied seinen Einsatz mindestens einmal versaute und bei "Summer in Siam" musste der "Maestro" drei- oder viermal sein Klavier-Intro wiederholen, bis Shane seinen Einstieg endlich auf die Kette kriegte. An das entsetzt-verärgerte Gesicht von Jimmy Fearnley kann ich mich bis heute erinnern - diese Tempo-Selbstzerstörung war einfach nur furchtbar und er war fleissig dabei, sein eigenes Grab zu schaufeln. Umso mehr freut es uns, das der Mann überhaupt noch lebt und in der Lage ist, aufzutreten. Anscheinend hat er seinen Alkoholkosum drastisch reduziert, in Bonn hatte er lediglich zu "Fiesta" ein- oder zweimal aus seiner Weinflasche genippt. Da die Show in Amsterdam ja sehr gut war, wird er sich wohl auch nicht nach dem Auftritt in Bonn die Kante gegeben haben.

Viele Grüße,

Bud

Thanks for The explanation Bud. I reviewed the show on my website in Bonn - http://3songsbonn.com/2011/07/09/the-po ... -everyday/

I was surprised how highly the show was rated by fans on this forum but your explanation has helped me understand. Someone at the concert asked me if Shane had had a stroke (Schlaganfall). Where did you hear this? The General Anzeiger Newspaper said it – but I never saw it anywhere else. I have to say I admire you Pogues fans for sticking by Shane
And, as I mention in my review, I hope he appreciates it too.

[Andreas]

Hi Mr. Philip Chevron!

Are there any plans, to come to Europe again, next year?

Greetings from Germany,
Andreas

[Patrick]

I think there will be a new album soon and this journalist knows all about it! It contains songs like "Freeborn man of the USA" and "Sally McLaghlan". I really can't wait to hear it!!!

Huh? Excuse me? Did you read that in this article?

[Tijl]

yeah, the guy from demorgen.be didn't really know what hit him and judging by his remarks (koka-kola by the clash?) not a really big music enthousiast...

[Maldoror]

I think there will be a new album soon and this journalist knows all about it! It contains songs like "Freeborn man of the USA" and "Sally McLaghlan". I really can't wait to hear it!!!

Huh? Excuse me? Did you read that in this article?

No, of course not, it was meant ironically. The guy who wrote the article didn't know a thing about The Pogues, not even the song titles.

[Bud Wayzer]

Hello from Germany und sorry for my bad English!
I've seen the Pogues in Amsterdam and in my opinion it was a very intense gig wiht a lot of power, especially by the first two songs. I love it.

But sorry, I can't understand, why everybody say, Shane is/was in great shape...
What is "in great shape" in your opinion??
He is an ill man wiht pathological moves, his voice is fucked up and every two oder three songs, he need a break....
Yes, he ist not fallen down, and he is not so drunk than 1995 in pinkpop festival, of course...

But in great shape?
Look at Iggy Pop, for example, HE is in great shape!

Best regards!

Hallo Andreas, hello to all the others. Please forgive me, when I answer to Andres in German, but my english is not good enough to explain, what I write in German now:

Hai Andreas,

ich hoffe, Du hattest einen ebenso tollen Abend wie wir in Bonn.
Nun zu Deinen Fragen/Anmerkungen. Viele von uns bezeichnen Shane in (sehr) guter Verfassung, da wir alle noch Erinnerungen an seine Auftritte Ende der 80er/Anfang der 90er haben. Ich erinnere mich an ein Festival (Headliner: Ramones), wo er auf die besoffen auf die Bühne geschlichen kam, bei jedem Lied seinen Einsatz mindestens einmal versaute und bei "Summer in Siam" musste der "Maestro" drei- oder viermal sein Klavier-Intro wiederholen, bis Shane seinen Einstieg endlich auf die Kette kriegte. An das entsetzt-verärgerte Gesicht von Jimmy Fearnley kann ich mich bis heute erinnern - diese Tempo-Selbstzerstörung war einfach nur furchtbar und er war fleissig dabei, sein eigenes Grab zu schaufeln. Umso mehr freut es uns, das der Mann überhaupt noch lebt und in der Lage ist, aufzutreten. Anscheinend hat er seinen Alkoholkosum drastisch reduziert, in Bonn hatte er lediglich zu "Fiesta" ein- oder zweimal aus seiner Weinflasche genippt. Da die Show in Amsterdam ja sehr gut war, wird er sich wohl auch nicht nach dem Auftritt in Bonn die Kante gegeben haben.

Viele Grüße,

Bud

Thanks for The explanation Bud. I reviewed the show on my website in Bonn - http://3songsbonn.com/2011/07/09/the-po ... -everyday/

I was surprised how highly the show was rated by fans on this forum but your explanation has helped me understand. Someone at the concert asked me if Shane had had a stroke (Schlaganfall). Where did you hear this? The General Anzeiger Newspaper said it – but I never saw it anywhere else. I have to say I admire you Pogues fans for sticking by Shane
And, as I mention in my review, I hope he appreciates it too.

Hello Johnno,

thanks for your kind reply.
The stroke of Shane is a theorie, which had its sparkle after the gig in Münster last year. My brother (on his first Pogues-Concert), said, (half kidding, half serious), that Shane looked a little bit like a stroke-patient.
So I started to search in the I-net for some facts. I never found really facts yet, but some pictures and articles, which say in sense, that the theorie could be right.
But know I´m very uncertain, If I should carry on, get all together what I´ve found, write it down and finally post it?
Will there be positive effects to Shane, his family, friends and the members of the band? Or will it cause just trouble or, even worse, damage???

You see, I´m not sure what to do now.

Greetings,
Bud