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Mr C, When you departed the band in I think around 94-95 period, was it purly down to health reasons or did you feel that the band wasn't recreating the magic it had done earlier, or even some sort of creative difference?
Also taking into account Shane had left the band a few years before hand, Joe had come and gone and I think James and Terry left around the same time as yourself.

Thanks,
Simon.

Simon Maguire wrote:Mr C, When you departed the band in I think around 94-95 period, was it purly down to health reasons or did you feel that the band wasn't recreating the magic it had done earlier, or even some sort of creative difference?
Also taking into account Shane had left the band a few years before hand, Joe had come and gone and I think James and Terry left around the same time as yourself.

Thanks,
Simon.

James and Terry had left a bit before me. I missed me mates, badly. So, I genuinely left for health reasons, but let's say it was an easier decision to make than it would have been a year or so earlier. Not that the others were not my mates, they were and are, but the chemistry of the band seemed to suddenly constrict after J and T left. It had been different with Shane, as he had become such a frickin' liability by then that he had a slightly different notion of, um, chemistry.

You have to be real careful when you mess about with the chemistry of great bands. Myself, Woodsy and Darryl were all positive additions to the Pogues, not least because we brought a degree of respect and humility with us - for a while at least!! The same cannot necessarily be said of everyone who joined the band.

philipchevron wrote:You have to be real careful when you mess about with the chemistry of great bands. Myself, Woodsy and Darryl were all positive additions to the Pogues, not least because we brought a degree of respect and humility with us - for a while at least!! The same cannot necessarily be said of everyone who joined the band.

After Darryl?

philipchevron wrote:

Simon Maguire wrote:Mr C, When you departed the band in I think around 94-95 period, was it purly down to health reasons or did you feel that the band wasn't recreating the magic it had done earlier, or even some sort of creative difference?
Also taking into account Shane had left the band a few years before hand, Joe had come and gone and I think James and Terry left around the same time as yourself.

Thanks,
Simon.

James and Terry had left a bit before me. I missed me mates, badly. So, I genuinely left for health reasons, but let's say it was an easier decision to make than it would have been a year or so earlier. Not that the others were not my mates, they were and are, but the chemistry of the band seemed to suddenly constrict after J and T left. It had been different with Shane, as he had become such a frickin' liability by then that he had a slightly different notion of, um, chemistry.

You have to be real careful when you mess about with the chemistry of great bands. Myself, Woodsy and Darryl were all positive additions to the Pogues, not least because we brought a degree of respect and humility with us - for a while at least!! The same cannot necessarily be said of everyone who joined the band.

So True.

It was really a shock for me to see some volume members the volume to have left. I be-took correctly on festival in Germany, where they were not already any longer thereby. Somehow was everything totally different. I missed it very much, although the organizer recruited thereby that before the Pogues to first times for years again all together will arise, and this was in the year 1994.Ich hopes much that we still many years the pleasure have the Pogues together Live to experience.

Woody wrote:Ich hopes much that we still many years the pleasure have the Pogues together Live to experience.

I hope so too, Woody.

Is there any Gig in memory particularly remained, negative or possitive? I heard times of a Gig, where someone burned an England flag bzw.the Gig in Berlin to Hitler birthday-repents one something which one over the whole years with the Pogues made, or one nearly everything deeply felt would again in such a way make?

Woody wrote:Is there any Gig in memory particularly remained, negative or possitive? I heard times of a Gig, where someone burned an England flag bzw.the Gig in Berlin to Hitler birthday-repents one something which one over the whole years with the Pogues made, or one nearly everything deeply felt would again in such a way make?

The first night of our US West Coast tour with Bob Dylan was quite memorable, as we arrived without our lead singer and our instruments were still at the Docks. We borrowed some instruments and went on stage, but were unable to borrow a lead singer, so we just did the best we could. Dylan silently watched the whole business unfold with fox eyes peering out of his hoodie.

philipchevron wrote:The first night of our US West Coast tour with Bob Dylan was quite memorable, as we arrived without our lead singer and our instruments were still at the Docks. We borrowed some instruments and went on stage, but were unable to borrow a lead singer, so we just did the best we could. Dylan silently watched the whole business unfold with fox eyes peering out of his hoodie.

Did you hear what he had to say about the Pogues on his Radio show??
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Thank you for the information Mr.Chevron! Is Bob Dylan actually a Pogues fan? I read somewhere times that Bruce Springsteen expressed itself very positive over the music of the Pogues! That is nevertheless really a radix complement.

Woody wrote:Thank you for the information Mr.Chevron! Is Bob Dylan actually a Pogues fan? I read somewhere times that Bruce Springsteen expressed itself very positive over the music of the Pogues! That is nevertheless really a radix complement.

All the best guys - Bruce, Bob, Steve Earle, Lou Reed, Tom Waits, David Bowie....................are Pogues fans, as you would expect.

Simon Maguire wrote:Mr C, When you departed the band in I think around 94-95 period, was it purly down to health reasons or did you feel that the band wasn't recreating the magic it had done earlier, or even some sort of creative difference?
Also taking into account Shane had left the band a few years before hand, Joe had come and gone and I think James and Terry left around the same time as yourself.

Thanks,
Simon.

I've always believed The Pogues should have called it a day after Waiting For Herb. The magic/chemistry that made the band so vital in the first place was already starting to burn out. I think after James and Terry left, the group should have disbanded. Now I'm not saying that Pogue Mahone was a bad album, there are some rather catchy songs in that lot, but I think by this time the band were on a hiding towards nothing.

Iain

Speaking of Tom Waits, I've always wanted to hear Tom sing on Pogues track with Shane. Talk about a meeting of two of the most memorable gravel voiced singers alive. I'm sure over the decades there have been plenty of potential collaborations with other artists or bands that just didn't happen for one reason or another. Are there any that come to mind that you wish had made it to the studio?

OrionSafari wrote:Speaking of Tom Waits, I've always wanted to hear Tom sing on Pogues track with Shane. Talk about a meeting of two of the most memorable gravel voiced singers alive. I'm sure over the decades there have been plenty of potential collaborations with other artists or bands that just didn't happen for one reason or another. Are there any that come to mind that you wish had made it to the studio?

We probably could have done a good record with Bob Dylan if he hadn't been so obviously terrified of us.

It seems that quite a few bands who attempt Dylan covers usually end up with a better version that the original and I reckon, 'When The Ship Comes In' is no exception.