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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:14 am
by mikewade
Wow - thanks so much for this. Every so often I still stop when I go past venues like the 100 club or Vortex/Pirate Jenny venue; places where I'd seen Agnes, and think back with a smile to all she gave us. Great to see her face again.

and Philip - did I ever thank you properly? Hope I did...though it was a bit of a turmoil time for me. Album is fantastic! Always be endebted to you for that.

Mike
xx

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:35 am
by mikewade
Hope ok - have posted article and your photobucket links onto an "Agnes" thread on a Kate Bush site I moderate - I know there are a lot of Agnes fans on there. Have included a link to here.

http://p081.ezboard.com/fthehomegroundandkatebushnewsandinfoforumfrm9.showMessage?topicID=1563.topic

Mike
x

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:09 pm
by johnfoyle
Hunting around the 'net for more Bernelle stuff I found this: it tells some of the tale in the 1985 cutting in more detail. You have to register with the site to get the text so I'll paste it here -

http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/ ... e_id=10924

The Sunday Independent

Sun, May 30 04

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Songs from a survivor


ALL the world's a stage . . . and one man in his time plays many parts, wrote Shakespeare. Something of a bard himself, Philip Chevron has been child prodigy, actor, composer, record producer, rock star, author, homosexual, football fan, Agnes Bernelle's apprentice, alcoholic and flawed genius. He's been a Pogue and a Radiator From Space, two epochal bands in which he claimed memorable status. Admittedly, it hasn't always been a joyous journey - drink, death and many dark nights of the soul - but living legend Chevron has not only survived but prospered.

From the late Eighties until midway through the next decade, Chevron had cause to see life through despairing eyes. That sense of almost insufferable gloom began on April 15, 1989, when Philip and fellow Pogue Darryl Hunt saw 96 lives lost in a crush of people at an FA Cup semi-final football match taking place at the Hillsborough stadium, Sheffield.

"I had survivor's guilt," he says. "I justified it to myself 100 times over and still can't make sense of it all." He associated the sadness of that time with a whole chain of events: his longterm boyfriend Achim became terminally ill; his father suddenly took sick; and Philip himself wasn't in great shape either.

"My boyfriend actually died in the middle of that period," he says, adding that things just got blacker and bleaker as he started to feel himself being "tugged into this dark hole. The more difficult life got, the less able I was to cope."

From 1993 onwards Philip realised he had to leave the group that had made him famous because it was doing his head in. "But I also realised it wasn't The Pogues' fault." He had put himself in that position. He was hiding behind this "thing of being a rock 'n' roll star. It wasn't me."

To mask/numb the pain of his abject existence Philip was drinking like a fish. And it suited his purposes that Shane MacGowan was the wayward drunk whom everyone worried about. That was convenient, he says, because if "they are not looking at you, that's just what you want. Being that ill is a very lonesome place to be and you don't necessarily want people to notice you. You think you're getting away with it."

He wasn't, of course. He nearly died from drinking when his liver "almost capsized". Twice in 1994 he found himself in an A&E ward being told that if he didn't stop drinking he would die - and sooner rather than later. "I was addicted. Drinking in order to get out of bed is a problem. I had a problem and I needed to stop," he says.

To this day he hasn't touched a drink. He finds it funny that Shane MacGowan still asks him: "What's this giving-up-drink lark?" "I hope after 10 years he realises I have actually given up," laughs Philip.

Chevron is reforming the Radiators, his first band, for a show at the Village in Dublin on June 16. "I never left any of my bands," he says with a chuckle. "I'm still in The Pogues really." Even the original eight-piece Pogues will probably do a Dublin show later this year.

But he's here today to talk about Songs in Her Suitcase, a puppet show for adults, all about the life of the incomparable Agnes Bernelle, a show for which he compiled the music.

Philip had always wanted to work with puppets ever since he saw the Lonely Goatherd number in The Sound of Music. Being a huge Julie Andrews fan as a child, he had a little Lonely Goatherd puppet which Santa had brought him one year. In fact, he's still got it. His name is Hansel, he says.

"It's great to have the opportunity to work with puppets because you may never be asked again to do a puppet show. And that's one thing Agnes always taught me: 'You may never get a second opportunity to say yes to something . . . '

"It wasn't difficult, because the project was so dear to my heart. I was so involved in the research side of it, in finding them the right music. I am a physical keeper of the music anyway, because she bequeathed all the tapes to me."

A lot of people knew Agnes Bernelle, the cabaret performer and friend of Gavin Friday, Elvis Costello and Tom Waits - but, he says: "I don't think many people knew who the woman was. Even the people she worked with didn't know her that well in many cases. She had a very close circle of friends."

Philip and I both have good memories of the late Bernelle. I remember being in her car many a time, with Agnes at the wheel - and remind him of the vehicle's inability to turn left. "It was lucky if it moved forward," he says, laughing. "Being in a car with her was an experience that everyone should have once in their lifetime, but not many people wanted to repeat it.

"She was a shockingly terrible driver. The number of one-way streets she would drive up was countless. 'Agnes,' I would say, it's a one-way street!'

"'Yes, darling, but I'm only going one way!'"

In many ways, Philip has been going the one way since he first heard Agnes in 1974 on the radio during a lunchbreak from school and was lifted by what he heard. Even more so, when he realised that this incredible woman actually lived in Dublin.

By coincidence, not long afterwards RTE screened a production of Brecht on Brecht - starring Agnes. It further convinced him of this woman's extraordinary gift.

"At this time Dublin was so grey and dull and awful and priest-ridden. Church and State were joined. So the notion of somebody as exotic as Agnes living in the same city was tremendously exciting, especially for someone like me. I felt distanced from all of this anyway, because at that stage I was beginning to come to understand that I was gay," he says.

And that made you doubly an outsider?

"Of course. Because now I was a sinner and a criminal as well. The Hirschfeld Centre was burnt down. Nobody knows who did it but it was widely believed to have been arson. But also around that time - and indeed after I left Dublin - there was serious queer-bashing in Dublin. It was a very f**king dangerous place to be gay. There was that kid murdered up in Fairview Park. It was a dangerous environment. But that wasn't the main problem, though that problem was quite serious," he recalls.

"I got over the sinner bit reasonably quickly. I thought: 'F**k that. That's just a load of shite.' It took me very little time to work out that if you haven't done anything wrong you haven't sinned. But all of that crap hangs over you. And also the illegality of it."

He first realised he was gay the first time he thought Marlene Dietrich was great - when he was about six. So it was perhaps inevitable that the sexually-confused teenager would be drawn towards Agnes Bernelle, Dublin's own Berlin-born cabaret superstar, and would, in time, set out to meet her.

AT the time, she was directing a play at the Project Arts Centre in Temple Bar. He positioned himself in the foyer one day and waited for her to enter. When she did, in sunglasses and a cigarette dangling from her mouth, his opening gambit was almost his undoing.

"Excuse me, you're Agnes Bernelle . . . "

"Yes, I know that," she replied.

In the course of the chat he told her that he was also a pop star, a record producer and could get her a record deal (lest we forget, he was 16 going on 17). He was, he says, scrawny, spotty and unlikely looking. But Agnes took to him in what she called "his father's clothes". (For the record, he was trying to effect his best "Gatsby look" - attempting to look like a Seventies version of a Twenties person.)

Some weeks later, they met again and Agnes invited the young pretender out to her house in Sandymount to hear her music.

"It was like The Graduate," he remembers. Agnes's bedroom could only be described as a boudoir. There was a tape machine at the end of the bed and she pointed.

"Sit there," she said.

She reclined on her pillows while Philip sat on the furthermost point of the bed, listening to this amazing music - all the time filled with the fear that Agnes Bernelle was actually Mrs Robinson.

"It was scary as hell. I didn't tell her about my sexuality because I didn't have a word for it then. But she probably knew. She'd seen this before. I suspect she had seen this outsized affection for her work in young men before."

She gave him a crash course in Weimar cabaret music, playing him all these tapes dating back to the first performances of her show at Peter Cook's Establishment Club in London.

"And all of this while propped up on the pillows of her bed!" he remembers with a laugh.

Eventually, Philip turned to Agnes and said: "I think I really can get you a record deal."

She looked at him very doubtfully as she handed him some tapes. When Philip left, Agnes turned to her husband Maurice Craig and announced: "Darling, I'm never going to see that young man or those tapes ever again."

She was wrong. Philip played the tapes to Eamon Carr of Horslips, who at that time was starting a small independent record label with Jackie Hayden. Within weeks Philip was phoning Agnes from the call box outside his school, saying: "I've got you a record deal."

"Who is this?"

"Er . . . Philip! I came out to your house."

"Oh you!"

Indeed it was. Born Philip Ryan in the Rotunda Hospital, Dublin, on June 17, 1957, Chevron had the arts in his blood. His father, Philip B Ryan, wrote biographies of both Jimmy O'Dea and Noel Purcell after being involved in Dublin theatre in the Forties and Fifties. He left the arts world, ostensibly to get a proper job and bring up a family.

Philip now feels his father's illness in 1989/90 was one of the best things that ever happened to him, as it allowed him to concentrate on writing books. "It forced him to take early retirement from this poxy job as catering manager of the Mater Hospital," he says.

Ryan Snr's last book, The Lost Theatres of Dublin, was unfinished when he died in May 1997. Philip finished the book after he passed away, fulfilling a deathbed promise by piecing together and editing his father's book.

The effort proved worthwhile. "In this loving testament to live performance, Ryan communicates the vitality, glamour and sometimes tawdriness of popular theatre, and variety in particular," ran the Daily Telegraph review.

"I promised my father I'd make sure it came out - he spent a lot of time and energy on it, and a lot of love," says Philip. "His passion for Irish theatre was boundless. He was somebody who at the age of 14 was buying threepenny seats in the gallery of the Abbey. He started writing sketches as a young man for the Theatre Royal. He was embroiled in it from the beginning."

You could say much the same for young Philip. He can remember writing tunes on his toy piano at the age of three. He was always at loggerheads with his piano teacher because he wanted to compose, rather than learn scales, he says.

His restless creative bent was given further exposure at the Brendan Smyth Theatre Academy, where - again - he rebelled against the formal training. He now says that they only taught how to walk in through a door, or how to speak "tongue-twisters proper". He felt that this wasn't acting, wasn't theatre. "It wasn't creative," he recalls. "My impulse was always to make theatre or to make music."

In some ways, he says, both his parents were the major influence on his life, nurturing his interest in theatre and music. They probably regretted this after taking the three-year-old Philip to see a Jimmy O'Dea pantomime - Robinson Crusoe with (naturally) Agnes Bernelle as the principal boy.

What his parents hadn't realised was that the young child would refuse to leave the theatre after the performance.

"I wailed and cried and stamped my feet when the curtain went down. They had to get the usherette to promise me that if I was a good boy and went away and had my tea, I could come back afterwards. I accepted this bargain and left the theatre. That was my first realisation that adults lie to you. Because they didn't take me back after tea." And I suppose he's been compensating ever since in trying to get back . . .


Barry Egan

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:16 pm
by CraigBatty
Bless you Philip. I love your example dearly. YOU the dude. :)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:22 pm
by philipchevron
The photo of myself and Agnes above was taken at her 70th Birthday party at the Project Arts Centre in Dublin (1993? 1994?) and was snapped by Thom McGinty, the legendary "Diceman". Thom was a much-loved Scot who was a fixture of the constant street theatre that is Dublin. When he died, not so long after he took this photo, his coffin was ceremonially and reverentially carried down Grafton Street. In one of those impromptu and lovely displays that Dubliners still have the capacity to surprise you with, this young immigrant Scottish gay man was honoured by the people of Dublin in his final journey.

And Mike, yes, you did. I'm glad you have Agi's own copy of her album. Thanks to John Foyle too, for taking the trouble. I feel sure Agi would agree she merited some space on a Pogues website. :wink:

Re: Bernelle puppet show

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:23 am
by Clash Cadillac
Just discovered this thread. Great read.

I was especially interested in Agnes' black propaganda work. Her Wikipedia page states "She later learnt that the man in charge known to them only as "the beard" was in fact Sefton Delmer her unofficial boss, and that the operations she was involved in paved the way for an organisation that would later be known as the CIA.

Philip, I am curious if Agnes ever spoke with you about that period of time in her life and if you can relate any information that has not already been mentioned on this thread or the Wikipedia page?

Re: Bernelle puppet show

PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:00 am
by philipchevron
Clash Cadillac wrote:Just discovered this thread. Great read.

I was especially interested in Agnes' black propaganda work. Her Wikipedia page states "She later learnt that the man in charge known to them only as "the beard" was in fact Sefton Delmer her unofficial boss, and that the operations she was involved in paved the way for an organisation that would later be known as the CIA.

Philip, I am curious if Agnes ever spoke with you about that period of time in her life and if you can relate any information that has not already been mentioned on this thread or the Wikipedia page?


Agnes's work was subject to the Official Secrets Act when I first knew her, so she was able to say very little, and by the time she was legally permitted to talk openly about it, the demands of our respective careers meant that when we did meet up, we tended to chat about peronal matters, family woes etc. Nevertheless, I know quite a bit about her time as Vicki of the Three Kisses on Radio Atlantik. For a time, she even talked about her secret service activities in her solo show, always with a touch of irony ("we told the listeners that the Ministry of Health in Berlin had requested all Good Germans to send samples of urine to the Ministry. We wrecked the Nazis' postal system for weeks!") but in later years, when she realised that a large number of innocent people had been executed for listening to Radio Atlantik, she started to seriously question her role in the War and was, I think, rather distressed by it, even if she was on the winning side.

She writes about it in detail in her memoir "The Fun Palace", which still turns up on Amazon.

1976 "Bernelle on Brecht And....." album

PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:40 pm
by bikeboy
I have been long searching for the 1976 "Bernelle on Brecht And....." album. Will it ever get a re-release in any format eg download? Here's hoping that this important music doesn't disappear forever!

Re: 1976 "Bernelle on Brecht And....." album

PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:49 pm
by philipchevron
bikeboy wrote:I have been long searching for the 1976 "Bernelle on Brecht And....." album. Will it ever get a re-release in any format eg download? Here's hoping that this important music doesn't disappear forever!


I'm working on getting it released on CD for the first time, complete with extra tracks, remastered tapes etc. But don't hold your breath just yet - finding the time to concentrate on it has proved elusive. Meanwhile, the last vinyl copy I saw on eBay went for 250 GBP.

Re: 1976 "Bernelle on Brecht And....." album

PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:09 pm
by Shaz
philipchevron wrote:
bikeboy wrote:I have been long searching for the 1976 "Bernelle on Brecht And....." album. Will it ever get a re-release in any format eg download? Here's hoping that this important music doesn't disappear forever!


I'm working on getting it released on CD for the first time, complete with extra tracks, remastered tapes etc. But don't hold your breath just yet - finding the time to concentrate on it has proved elusive. Meanwhile, the last vinyl copy I saw on eBay went for 250 GBP.


I'd love a CD copy of it! *Crosses appendages firmly for progress*

Re: 1976 "Bernelle on Brecht And....." album

PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:10 pm
by Clash Cadillac
philipchevron wrote: But don't hold your breath just yet - finding the time to concentrate on it has proved elusive.


Maybe something to do with that vigorous theatre schedule.

Re: Bernelle puppet show

PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:27 am
by johnfoyle
The Bernelle/Rubberbandits connection.

http://www.independent.ie/entertainment ... 58089.html

Bold Bandits get my rubber-stamp

Not since Mick Jagger whispered 'Shut up' has anyone else in the music business stood out, writes Antonia Leslie



Sunday February 27 2011

I FELL in love with Mick Jagger when I was a child. He came to stay at Castle Leslie in 1968 and because I had very alternative bohemian parents, strange looking people in kaftans, crazy movie directors, supposed alien abductees, artists and writers were the normal company I would find myself keeping or sitting beside, in my high chair, at the large round table in a the dinning room on any given day.

And because of this, I was not impressed with Mick Jagger straight away. On the night he arrived, Jagger sat beside me at dinner, and as I was whinging and whining about not liking my spinach, he whispered into my ear: "Shut Up!"; then winked, and that was it.

For a long time, I believed in my tiny heart there would never be another man for me as long as I lived. He used to take me for long walks and hold my hand and even though there was a huge age gap, say 20-odd years, it made no difference to me ... I still have a letter from him explaining why he couldn't marry me, as he was sadly engaged to someone else -- but it was addressed to Lady Antonia, who so graciously proposed! I was five.

I'm telling you this not to brag about who I knew or how lucky I was to have such an privileged background, but to emphasise that even after that, travelling far and wide and being friends with some very famous rock legends, not enough to call myself a groupie, or so I hope. All that has dramatically changed.

Yep, the groupie label I will proudly display now, and I'll tell you in a second just who and why. But the background stuff I give you here is to show you why I wouldn't be impressed too easily with every young musical or even comedy act that pops up on YouTube. But here's the truth of it: not since Mick Jagger has anyone else in the music business genuinely captured my heart, in such a way, not up until now ... no, none of them, not even half way measured up to my brand new music love of today. Which is, The Rubberbandits! All of them, the very concept of them, the very life blood of them, I've gone away dizzy and gushing!

Maybe it's the soft Limerick accents or maybe it's because I come from a musical, satirical background -- but this stuff is in my blood.

My grandfather was a Jewish-Hungarian emigrant during the Weimer Republic in Berlin and rose to fame as one of the biggest theatre producers and writers of pop music songs of the time there, back in the Twenties and Thirties. He co-wrote the famous musicale The Chocolate Soldier and ended up owning five of the biggest theatres in Berlin before the Nazis took them away.

But his early rise to fame was with his partner Karl Mienheart and together they were the Rubberbandits of their time. They were a musical, political and social commentating satirist duo, whose name in German translated as the Bad Boys.

It passed on down through my mother, who herself was a cabaret singer and political satirist. She sang Bertolt Brecht and Kurt Weill and other such like and had albums produced by Elvis Costello and Philip Chevron and teamed up with Gavin Friday and sang comical duets with Mark Almond. Tom Waits named her as his favourite recording artist way back in the Eighties in an interview in NME, so once again I'm telling this not to plug my late mother; no, I'm definitely plugging the Rubberbandits here but to show you that I've experienced a lot of alternative cool music and musical satire at its finest and so I am not easily impressed by this stuff unless it's good!

The Rubberbandits are not only brilliant and marvellous but necessary. What amazes me is the people who just don't get them. They don't get it that these guys are sending up the remnants of the Celtic Tiger and the over-promiscuous and drugged-up youth that became a product of these times -- but they send it up with a sort of bemusement and kindness and in a way that is non-judgmental.

Creativity and daring satire, during dire times of political disaster, financial catastrophe and the demoralisation of a country always gives birth to the best music and the best form of artistic expression.

I went to their gig in Tripod last Saturday night and was their guest so they really looked after me and my gang. I hadn't seen them live before and, musically, they kick ass. Once again, I wasn't expecting that. There is a third Bandit member, their DJ, Willy O'Deajay (Paul Webb), and all their music is original and composed by Blind Boy Boat Club and Mr Chrome.

They will go to the US and they will be a huge success and thank God the world will see that we are not a nation of half-wit, corrupt bankers and dopey politicians. Their next gig will be at the Olympia Theatre, Dublin, on April 21

Re: Bernelle puppet show

PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:54 am
by Low D
philipchevron wrote:She writes about it in detail in her memoir "The Fun Palace", which still turns up on Amazon.


... used copies for as little as $9.01 on .com or £6.92 on .co.uk. In case anyone's looking.

Re: Bernelle puppet show

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 12:26 am
by johnfoyle
I heard a trailer for this repeat ; I had to go out & missed it. Hopefully a 'play again' link will eventually be added to this page -

http://www.rte.ie/lyricfm/features/

Friday May 20th

Welcome to the Fun Palace

In this programme, first broadcast on RTÉ Radio 1 in 1998, the German cabaret artist and performer Agnes Bernelle recalled her extraordinary life and times from her childhood in Berlin to exile in London and her marriages and career in Ireland. Best remembered for her interpretation of classic German political cabaret songs, she also appeared in films and theatre. Her first album "Bernelle on Brecht and..." was released in 1977. Subsequent albums included "Father's Lying Dead on the Ironing Board" and "Mother, The Wardrobe is full of Infantrymen". Her autobiography "The Fun Palace" was published by Lilliput in 1996. In 1998 she celebrated her 75th birthday with a performance of songs, accompanied by Peter O'Brien on piano, at the National Concert Hall in Dublin. In "Welcome to the Fun Palace" we hear music from that concert and the artist herself in conversation with John Quinn. It was to be one of her last interviews. She died on the 15th February 1999.
Produced by John Quinn.

Re: Bernelle puppet show

PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:18 am
by philipchevron
johnfoyle wrote:I heard a trailer for this repeat ; I had to go out & missed it. Hopefully a 'play again' link will eventually be added to this page -

http://www.rte.ie/lyricfm/features/

Friday May 20th

Welcome to the Fun Palace

In this programme, first broadcast on RTÉ Radio 1 in 1998, the German cabaret artist and performer Agnes Bernelle recalled her extraordinary life and times from her childhood in Berlin to exile in London and her marriages and career in Ireland. Best remembered for her interpretation of classic German political cabaret songs, she also appeared in films and theatre. Her first album "Bernelle on Brecht and..." was released in 1977. Subsequent albums included "Father's Lying Dead on the Ironing Board" and "Mother, The Wardrobe is full of Infantrymen". Her autobiography "The Fun Palace" was published by Lilliput in 1996. In 1998 she celebrated her 75th birthday with a performance of songs, accompanied by Peter O'Brien on piano, at the National Concert Hall in Dublin. In "Welcome to the Fun Palace" we hear music from that concert and the artist herself in conversation with John Quinn. It was to be one of her last interviews. She died on the 15th February 1999.
Produced by John Quinn.


http://www.rte.ie/lyricfm/player_av.htm ... 05-20.smil