Accordian

**Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:04 pm**

What type of accordian does James use with the pogues?

**Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:08 pm**

Jackthelad wrote:What type of accordian does James use with the pogues?

One that goes in and out :wink:

I think it's a Hohner

**Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:18 pm**

I think he usually uses a keyboard one too, right?

**Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:20 pm**

120 bass Hohner.

**Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:22 pm**

yer i looked at the if i should fall from grace cover and you could see the letters HON_R the E i think had faded out or somthing. I'm just interested in giving it a go, should be that hard going onto it from the piano. I suppose getting the nack of pumping and using the bass buttons would be the only thing to get over. Could sombody tell me what the best model would be to start on?

Gola
Freebass and Convertor
Standardbass Professional
Standardbass International
Orchestra Instruments
Diatonic

This was a list I got on the Hohner website of types of accordian and I am not sure where to start. Any Suggestions?

**Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:55 pm**

At the moment, I'm playing a Hohner Morino, 96 bass. I've usually gone for Hohners, though I've had a Soprani, I think it was called, which was very 'wet' on the musette (you can hear this in Sickbed and most of the songs on that record) and a Giulietti, again, I think it's called, which a salesman told me would be 'perfect for an american audience'. I hated it. It was unresponsive and unforgiving. My favourite has always been the first accordion I ever bought, which I still have, which is a Hohner Tango from the forties but it couldn't cope with the sweat that poured into the keyboard, and after that a Hohner Verdi, I think it is. For a long time I had a Hohner Atlantic 120 bass which was a monster.

**Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:57 pm**

Just wondering James about a problem that the accordian player in my band seems to have. Whenever he really gets into it there's always a note that breaks which goes out of tune then (I think it's the D or something)

Do you have problems like this as well because you seem to put a lot of 'effort' in it as well :wink:

**Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:01 pm**

Whatever sounds nice to you. Try a few out, which is what I did at the start. I knew I couldn't do diatonic, or button accordions, nor freebass (the above-mentioned Giulietti). Your standard professional, I suppose, would be the thing. And I suppose, start off with a smaller one. I don't know why I say that, other than the big ones can be bastards to stand around with (I don't sit when I play, never have), and the smaller ones (I don't know 72 bass seems reasonable, but I think there are 48 bass or something too) are more apprehendable on the bass end, if you know what I mean. But have a listen to what the keyboard reeds do. There are all sorts of tunings, from as dry as anything (Giulietti again, but I don't know all the breeds) to musettes (Scottish and French, that sort of thing). I always liked a tuning that was, I suppose you'd characterize it as, Mexican. Some of those Corona's are fantastic sounding things, which I've often seen Irish musicians play. Have a go on one of those.

**Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:07 pm**

I used to get that a lot on the Atlantic, but I wonder if it was a function of not being able to hear myself well, and thus the extra effort. Oftentimes shit sticks to the reeds and they need cleaning. Other times, when you hang around a particular register and you use certain notes the most, those are the ones that weaken and just snap off. It happens all the time, though that hasn't happened for a bit with the Hohner Amica I've had, and not yet on the Morino. The older the accordion, the tenderer it is. I used to carry around a huge pack of spare reeds and get the wax out and the soldering iron in the hotel room to replace them when a reed broke. It happens, but I'd have your man identify which reed it is and then open the accordion up and have a look if it's a bit of detritus (the cardboard often enough from the inside of the bellows flakes off and gets stuck in the reeds.)

**Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:09 am**

I was just in the studio recording and I noticed that... at the end of songs or verses when I give that long crescendo the accordion goes a bit flat if I pump too hard... which isn't good for me. I mean, I'm a pretty beefa fella and I like to push and pull pretty hard.

You ever have that problem, James? Anyone else out there? Or is it just the accordion I'm using?

**Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:03 am**

Actually, can't say I do. Sounds like something that you'd expect to happen on a mouth organ. What sort of a thing goes flat when you pump it?

**Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:53 pm**

JamesFearnley wrote:Actually, can't say I do. Sounds like something that you'd expect to happen on a mouth organ. What sort of a thing goes flat when you pump it?

That sounds so dirty. :lol:

**Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:34 pm**

Jesus christ, the cost of em 2 grand for a pucker one and im just spending a grand on a roland 700sx keyboard. Doubt ill be getting a accordian for a long while.

**Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:12 am**

yeah, but when you've wooed the hohner distributor and put him and his office on the guest list over the years and you've done been and visited the Hohner factory (and I had to pay for the flight, back in 1980something) in Trossingen, then the price just got to go down.

**Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:35 pm**

JamesFearnley wrote:yeah, but when you've wooed the hohner distributor and put him and his office on the guest list over the years and you've done been and visited the Hohner factory (and I had to pay for the flight, back in 1980something) in Trossingen, then the price just got to go down.

Second hand comes to my mind, but then even still that must be about a grand for a decent one. Still I'll keep an eye out.

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