The Snake or Crock of Gold?

**Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:19 pm**

Just wondering, which one of those two albums is the best in your view? If you could tell me why also, that would be appreciated. Thanks!

**Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:46 pm**

Crock of Gold is by far the better album - it's much more like the classic Pogues we know and love. Shane's writing is back on top form and there's some really witty lyrics and a fair bit of politics and social commentary.

The Snake has some good songs on it but IMO, there's way too much filler and it lacks cohesion. The two incredibly sappy duets are torture on my ears and Shane seems particularly whiny and filled with self pity...

**Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:55 pm**

I agree with the previous speaker.
Allthough im not very fond of Shane's vocals during that period of time (sounds like he got a flue) The crock of gold is a very good album.
The album got a very nice layed back traditional sound to it.

The snake is a bit more rock'n'roll.

By the way.. Have any of you guys read "The crock of gold" by James Stephens?
Besides from the album being named after it it's a really great book. Fun and poetic folklore.

**Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:42 pm**

Weren't a lot of the songs on The Snake actually rejected Pogues tracks? I thought that the electric guitars sounded out of place too...

**Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:29 am**

Hellbeard wrote:By the way.. Have any of you guys read "The crock of gold" by James Stephens?
Besides from the album being named after it it's a really great book. Fun and poetic folklore.

I have. Definitely great!

**Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:43 am**

I love them both, but true, they are very different.

**Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:00 pm**

too many electric guitars and sappy duets on the snake but there are still a couple og good ones.
crock of gold is far a classic shane album.a breath of fresh air at the time ,more like the original pogues ,i had it playing continuous for a bout 6 months when it came out

**Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:48 pm**

I agree with everyone above. Crock is over all much better, but The Snake has some amazing songs too. In fact "The Snake with Eyes of Garnet" is one of my overall favorites.

**Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:05 pm**

I totally disagree and when I have some time I'll tell you all why!!

**Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:42 pm**

Sappy duets?! I think the way Máire and Sinéad sing on their sweetest, while Shane does his best to spoil the sweetness and to mock them as well as himself is brilliant. Fun, parody on all those crappy saccharine pop duets, that’s how I perceive the songs. And enjoy them immensely.

**Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:13 am**

Zuzana wrote:Sappy duets?! I think the way Máire and Sinéad sing on their sweetest, while Shane does his best to spoil the sweetness and to mock them as well as himself is brilliant. Fun, parody on all those crappy saccharine pop duets, that’s how I perceive the songs. And enjoy them immensely.

Never picked up on that. Seems to me that Shane genuinely is trying to be romantic and coming out with a song that sounds like something Robbie Williams (after 40 a day for twenty years) would sing with Kylie or Nicole Kidman...

Actually, now you come to mention it and listening again tonight - it *does* sound like an old, drunk, homeless guy singing a love song to an underage girl. Not sure if it's intentional, but if Shane meant it like that, then it's fucking hilarious.

**Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:26 pm**

sorry i forgot aboyt the snake with eyes of garnet ,that one is one of my favourites

**Thu Jan 13, 2005 1:40 pm**

I think The Snake has far better songs on it. I also like the stripped down sound on the album. No accordion or fiddles, just mainly banjo and whistle. I also like the mix between rock songs and folk songs.

I think the songs and the sound on "Crock" is tired and dozy. Some songs are good but it just sounds a bit boring to me.

**Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:01 pm**

"crock of gold" is by far the better album.. both the lyrics and the music are better on the crock...

**Fri Jan 14, 2005 2:04 pm**

To be honest i havent listened to the Snake for ages ,it might sound a better now .it has a couple of gooduns on it like the snake and Bring down the lamp but it aint as good as the crock in my opinion

The Snake or Crock of Gold?

The Snake or Crock of Gold?

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