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Vintage Disney Songbook

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Post Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:11 pm

philipchevron wrote:
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dawson wrote:why do people always say disney is evil? it seems pretty harmless to me.

Disney is harmless is much the same way WAL*MART is harmless.


Yeah, you´re right.

Reminds me of what Steve Earle once said about Garth Brooks:

"Well, he really can´t sing. He really can´t carry a tune in his bucket. His records need a lot of work. He is really tone deaf. He´s one of the worst singers I´ve ever heard in my life. I think Garth Brooks is kind of evil just because he sucks so much energy and money out of the business."


Steve said that? What a star! In Ireland, Garth Brooks is bigger than U2 and his merchandisers do a comparably distressing line of silly hats, all worn at a rakish angle by Brooks's gazillions of fans. Who knew there were that many Alpha Males and Ditzy Dames in one small European country? One day, somebody will explain to me how that happened but not, with any luck, today,


Chris Gaines didn't kill Garthmania in Ireland? It stopped his career dead in its tracks in the U.S., at least.
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Post Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:37 pm

MacRua wrote:"Pete Doherty is donning his flat cap to perform the Mary Poppins tune Chim Chiminey at the South Bank Centre as part of a starry tribute to the Disney Songbook.

Doherty, the scruffy urchin with the million pound record contract and supermodel girlfriend, will join drinking pal Shane Macgowan and Meltdown festival curator Jarvis Cocker to pay tribute to classic Disney songs as part of the South Bank's annual music jamboree.

Nick Cave, Baaba Maal, Ralph Steadman and Bryan Ferry will also perform.
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Forest Of No Return - Hal Willner presents the Vintage Disney Songbook. Royal Festival Hall, 0871 663 2500, Sunday 17 June, 7.30pm.

You may chance it...


I might actually try to go to this thing. I'll be in the area then, so it would make a little bit of sense to try. Nick Cave's supposed to be there, so it can't be a complete mistake to go if he doesn't show...
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Post Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:33 am

MacRua wrote:What thrilling conclusions can be made on basis of someone's favourite animated characters list...


Mr. Toad doth take no crap. He's totally egocentric, drives a fine motor-car, looks lovely in a dress and parties hearty. He's dreamy.
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Post Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:30 am

philipchevron wrote:
Steve said that? What a star! In Ireland, Garth Brooks is bigger than U2 and his merchandisers do a comparably distressing line of silly hats, all worn at a rakish angle by Brooks's gazillions of fans. Who knew there were that many Alpha Males and Ditzy Dames in one small European country? One day, somebody will explain to me how that happened but not, with any luck, today,


He is quoted saying that in his fantastic biography "Hardcore troubadour - The life and near death of Steve Earle".

I, for once, could never understand what people like about Garth Brooks. His music is awfully boring, the songs are crap, and just putting on a silly hat and cowboy boots doesn´t mean he´s a country singer.

Mr Chevron, what was it like working with Steve Earle back in the 80ies ? And did you meet him again after his drug recovery ?
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Post Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:28 am

The Duke of Ingmar wrote:
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Steve said that? What a star! In Ireland, Garth Brooks is bigger than U2 and his merchandisers do a comparably distressing line of silly hats, all worn at a rakish angle by Brooks's gazillions of fans. Who knew there were that many Alpha Males and Ditzy Dames in one small European country? One day, somebody will explain to me how that happened but not, with any luck, today,


He is quoted saying that in his fantastic biography "Hardcore troubadour - The life and near death of Steve Earle".

I, for once, could never understand what people like about Garth Brooks. His music is awfully boring, the songs are crap, and just putting on a silly hat and cowboy boots doesn´t mean he´s a country singer.

Mr Chevron, what was it like working with Steve Earle back in the 80ies ? And did you meet him again after his drug recovery ?


I liked Steve instantly when I met him. Circumstances seem to keep thwarting opportunities to say hello to him again in recent years, though I believe both Terry and Spider have caught up with him a few times. I was interviewed for David McGee's book Steve Earle: Fearless Heart, Outlaw Poet and, for what it's worth, my appraisal of Steve's work and its connection with Irish roots music is quite prominently covered in this.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Steve-Earle-Fea ... 448&sr=8-7
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Back to our pink elephants

Post Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:52 am

Why Disney looks set for a rock and roll makeover
Jarvis Cocker, Baaba Maal and Shane MacGowan aim to give Disney songs a new edge this weekend
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By Tim Cumming
Published: 15 June 2007

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The music of Disney is a world Willner has explored before, though not on stage. His 1988 tribute album Stay Awake combined Sun Ra and his Arkestra with Tom Waits, Harry Nilsson, Ringo Starr and Sinéad O'Connor, each injecting a wild strain of adult content into Disney's presumed innocence. It was Disney all right, but seen through a glass darkly. "I wound up taking my childhood out on the whole world, since cartoons affect me very personally," Willner says, "but now I've got a two-and-a-half-year-old child, I don't need to spread my unhappy childhood out to people so much."

Twenty years on, Forest of No Return draws on that same illicit thrill of artists breathing a very different kind of life into Disney classics. Think of Pete Doherty doing "Chim Chim Cher-ee", Shane MacGowan ripping through "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah", or Cocker himself taking on a song from The Jungle Book. There's Baaba Maal paired with "When You Wish Upon a Star" and Grace Jones, Bryan Ferry and Beth Orton have also been booked.

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"There's something very direct and blatant about it that you wouldn't be able to do now, people just wouldn't accept it. That naivety and blatancy got me interested in exploring that area, especially the really old cartoons, the ones that Disney himself was involved in. It's manipulative and sentimental but somehow it is potent and it is powerful.

"It's a potency that stems, perhaps, from how our perception of childhood changes as we grow older. Because there's a distance to it now, I think there can be a certain kind of darkness to it. I thought it would be something worth exploring at the Meltdown."

And with the likes of Cave, Doherty and MacGowan on board – each with vivid back stories of their own – Forest of No Return promises some deliciously dark combinations. "They're songs from a much more innocent era, or at least a more innocent era in show business," says Robyn Hitchcock, "but done by this bunch of rock roués... the generation that killed it off, in a way."

We're not talking I-killed-Bambi shock tactics, although Willner does confess to the troublemaker's urge. "I always want to paint the moustache on the Mona Lisa," he says, "and there'll be a bit of that." The main challenge is making a show out of songs of such brevity. "It'll probably all change at the last minute. As Tom Waits says, everything I do is unspeakable and dark."

That, and the kind of wild surrealism of vintage Disney moments, such as Dumbo getting drunk and hallucinating pink elephants on parade – scenes of adult experience mixed with childhood fantasy that would never pass the censors these days. "You just wouldn't be allowed to put that in a kids' film now," Cocker says. "The idea of getting pissed and it being quite hallucinogenic and also quite pleasurable would be a complete no-no. You'd be accused of corrupting the youth.

"That kind of sums up where children's entertainment has gone. But it was doing the same thing that folk tales and fairy tales used to do before they were sanitised. They would present aspects of the adult world in an entertaining way to prepare kids for what was going to happen. That's why folk tales were powerful – by introducing kids to the concept of danger. It takes away one of the big ingredients by bowdlerising them."


Much MOre HERE >>>

PS With the Forest of No Return only a few days away, no one knows quite how the show is going to turn out, which is the way Willner likes to work... He flew into town armed with just a set-list and a wish-list of collaborators, and it's how the two combine that makes or breaks a project like this. "Some jump on top of it straight away, others have to be convinced. Artists are still coming aboard; some are still disappearing." ;)
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Post Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:05 am

I can do the entire Soundtrack album of Mary Poppins from memory, but you see, this is not what they want anymore, is it? Not post-modern enough for them, not moustache-on-the-Mona-Lisa enough for them.
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Post Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:36 am

philipchevron wrote:I can do the entire Soundtrack album of Mary Poppins from memory, but you see, this is not what they want anymore, is it?

Willner is simply not in the know maybe...
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Post Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:46 am

philipchevron wrote:I can do the entire Soundtrack album of Mary Poppins from memory, but you see, this is not what they want anymore, is it? Not post-modern enough for them, not moustache-on-the-Mona-Lisa enough for them.


Well I know I'd pay good money to see it.
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Post Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:37 pm

Good morning Viet Nam!
A bit of limbering up (on the threshold of the actual event)

;) who is sleepy here?
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Post Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:34 am

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Disney.html

http://animatedbuzz.com/WB/36.html

http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/films.asp

http://www.rotten.com/library/culture/banned-cartoons/
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My oh my, what a bizarre night

Post Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:00 am

I just got back from this, and Shane was most certainly there. 8)


More updates to come...
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:37 am

The writer of that Independent article was not kidding-- he really did "Zip-a-dee Doo Dah." I know, I couldn't believe it either.


It was a rocked-up version, and it was actually pretty good! (Especially compared to some of the other performances. :shock: ) Stranger still was the number Shane did earlier, with Nick Cave, Jarvis Cocker, and Pete Doherty, a "song" called "Home Sweet Home," which consisted entirely of the quartet howling and wailing like dogs. Priceless.

Those four were really the best performers overall. The show was an interesting concept, but you really have to execute it correctly. There was some dead wood-- annoying performers and too many instrumentals where I felt like I could've fallen asleep (were it not for the obnoxious avant garde saxophonist blasting me awake).
Suffice it to say, Philip's renditions of "Mary Poppins" songs were sorely missed.

For anyone interested, as for the others, Pete Doherty did the Chimney song straight, and I've never seen him perform live before but I have to say it was one of the best songs of the whole night. Nick Cave did "Hi Diddle Dee Dee, an Actor's Life For Me" which was better than it sounds and was very Nick Cave-esque.. Gavin Friday was quite good, and Grace Jones had a number too...

One incident sums up most of the rest of it well: during an overlong sax instrumental, an impatient fan screamed "SHANE!" (Which I wouldn't've had the gall to do, but I agreed with the sentiment.)


The most surreal moment of the night, other than Shane howling: After seeing stars like Jarvis Cocker and Beth Orton perform, the solitary figure of Joey walks out to center stage, and proceeds to adjust Shane's mic. :wink:


Oh, and I took a few decent photos of "Zip-a-dee Doo Dah" being sung and the other Shane stuff since everybody else had cameras too.
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:53 am

strummercalling wrote:Oh, and I took a few decent photos of "Zip-a-dee Doo Dah" being sung and the other Shane stuff since everybody else had cameras too.


Thanks for that strummercalling. Any chance of getting your pics on here?
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Post Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:23 am

Shane sang (and howled) beautifully, I wouldn't have missed it for the world. Pete Doherty was majestic and so was Nick Cave. Nice to see Pete and Kate sat in the crowd to watch Shane and left to join him the moment he finished.

Spot on about the sax player, God spare us.
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