The Medusa Fora

just started listenin to the nips, in so pissed off especially he has a broad cockney accent, when did shane actually get an oirish accent?

the cockney accent is for the punk songs and the oirish accent is for the oirish songs. Shane is a clever man.

maybe it's the insomnia talking but his accent in the nips stuff i've heard sounds pretty american to me...especially the short a's
and isn't affecting an american accent pretty standard among lots of bands?

As long as I've known Shane (29 years) he has never had an "Irish" accent. In part, that's kinda the point of Shane, really. The only Pogues with Irish accents are myself and Terry. Mine is a slightly genteel North Dublin, inflected with 30 years as a Briton and almost 50 as a devotee of American musicals. Terry's is slightly genteel South Dublin, unalloyed with foreign influence except maybe the mountainy singers of the Appalachians and Woody Guthrie. People usually hear the accents and go "which part of Australia you guys from?", though we do not sound like anyone from any part of Australia I've ever been to. Speaking of which, normal British/Irish September weather appears to have returned to welcome Fintan and his lassies.

Pete Holidai from the Radiators, although he returned to Ireland in the early 70s, still has the Fulham Broadway accent he grew up with when his family migrated to London in the early 60s.

I like the real story of the geordie lady who had a stroke and woke up with a jamaican accent. Apparntly its a medical condition which affects quite a few people.

Shane has a trans-Atlantic accent.

AllBusiness37 wrote:Shane has a trans-Atlantic accent.

This is a non-topic. Kid Jensen has a transatlantic accent. Mike Read. Shane has an accent that pretty accurately reflects his North London/Kent/Barbican upbringing, inflected with Tipperary idioms and speech patterns. Pretty much as you'd expect, in fact.

Doesn't Shaneo have Oirish accent?

I don't want to be the one to break Oirish Rover's heart. Someone else answer this.

I thought the very notion of a trans-Atlantic accent was jokesome, but I guess some people really do possess them.

IrishRover wrote:Doesn't Shaneo have Oirish accent?

Damn it, man, the tragic part is you've clearly never met anyone who's Irish. That just breaks my heart.

IrishRover wrote:Doesn't Shaneo have Oirish accent?

Shaneo spent most of his formative years in England, apart from holidays in Ireland. It would be surprising if he did have an Irish accent. The same is true of Boy George, Johnny Lydon, Kathy Burke etc

There is NO DOUBT that MacGowan sings in a 'put on Irish accent' so to speak. However, somehow he carries this off very very well and Im sure if anyone else ever tried it they would be ridiculed. But, whats wrong with that? Apparently The Beatles were thought to be different as they came from Britain and DIDNT sing in American accents, it says on Beatles Anthology anyway.

MacGowan still speaks in a normal london voice but cos his teeth are fucked, his voice is not what is is clearly heard to be like in the early interview featured on the If I Should Fall From dvd, in which he is a pure cockney.

Also some songs really need to be sung in a slight accent I feel. I mean, listen to The Family Mahone's Raggle Taggle Gypsy and it just doesnt sound right in my humble opinion. And if Slade sung in Midlands accents then this would also sound quite quite silly whereas Stone Roses singing in Manchester accents sounds fine. So basically certain 'accents' fit certain songs. Thats wot I think anyway.

Hmm

Does anyone actually understand wot I mean?

[quote="As long as I've known Shane (29 years) he has never had an "Irish" accent. In part, that's kinda the point of Shane, really. The only Pogues with Irish accents are myself and Terry. Mine is a slightly genteel North Dublin, inflected with 30 years as a Briton and almost 50 as a devotee of American musicals. Terry's is slightly genteel South Dublin, unalloyed with foreign influence except maybe the mountainy singers of the Appalachians and Woody Guthrie. People usually hear the accents and go "which part of Australia you guys from?", though we do not sound like anyone from any part of Australia I've ever been to. Speaking of which, normal British/Irish September weather appears to have returned to welcome Fintan and his lassies.

Pete Holidai from the Radiators, although he returned to Ireland in the early 70s, still has the Fulham Broadway accent he grew up with when his family migrated to London in the early 60s."][/quote]

This is going to be a stupid question but its been bothering me, youre not the REAL Phil Chevron are you?