orrok61 wrote:hey..Craig Batty..I know that name!!
philipchevron wrote:Guest wrote:philipchevron wrote:Owen Roe wrote:Before the St. Patrick's Day show 2008, "St. Patrick was a fucking cunt he destroyed our native religion." Then they tore right into "Streams".
Yes, I liked that too, though it made me wonder what Oirish Rover would have made of it. Especially as our native religion was, basically, Paganism.
Not exactly paganism, more druidism, Mr.C. And, as far I know a thing or two about it (old druidism, not the new-druidism stupidity), I guess you can call it some kind of organized religion. At least it was, at a time, spread all over europe. Any Celtic nations had their druids and druidic centers. You can read something about this in some passages from "The Gallic Wars", by Cesar. Paganism is just a word and comes"from Pagus" - meaning provincial, in opposition with urban, that the christian used to described the peoples that took long to let it go their old believes.
Indeed so, but my point was the Irish were,(and remain, to a large extent, which is why slipping loose the chains of Catholicism came so easily to us in the end) Christian recusants all along which is why, as you so accurately state, they were, by Christian definition, Pagans.
Point taken, Mr.C. The real problem is, of course, that all we know from the Iron Age peoples (including the Irish) was written by their opponents – first Rome, and then the Christians, who didn’t have a special interest in being accurate when it comes to describe them. So, there’s a lot of false propaganda and defamation in classic and medieval texts about our native religions and peoples. (I’m from the north of Portugal and the case here is even more painful, because our Iron Age history is even cloudier). But there’s always some leaks and bridges that we can study and that’s why so important to me that people that reveals any interest on this topics to not let be confused by a matter that is, by its own nature, so complex. The Irish history is, of course, a subject that can clarify much of the questions arose by this period because, first, Irish were not Romanized and preserved their Celtic legacy longer, and two, because, as you so nicely put, they were, indeed, Christian recusants all along. Think Pelagius and the Celtic church, for instance...well, I don’t want to bother you more with my thoughts about this. Best regards, Mr. C.
geri wrote:interviewer - are you prod to be irish ?
shane - yes
interviewer - why ?
shane - cause we are the master race, i mean us and the blacks are the master race
interviewer - who is your favourite woman ?
shane - the virgin mary, i wanna give her one.
this is a particularly funny interview here's the link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM9HcDJ4oMU
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