The Medusa Fora

(1) Is this the correct track listing for <i>The Snake</i>?

1. Church Of The Holy Spook
2. Nancy Whiskey
3. Song With No Name
4. Aisling
5. Roddy Mccorley
6. Victoria
7. That Woman's Got Me Drink
8. You're The One
9. Mexican Funeral In Paris
10. Rising Of The Moon
11. Snake With Eyes Of Garnet
12. Haunted
13. I'll Be Your Handbag
14. Her Father Didn't Like Me
15. Bring Down The Lamp
16. Donegal Express

(2) On what release "Cracklin' Rose" appear?

The one I've got has this tracklisting:

The Church of the Holy Spook
That woman's got me drinking
The song with no name
Aisling
I'll be your handbag
Her father didn't like me anyway
A Mexican funeral in Paris
The snake with eyes of garnet
Donegal Express
Victoria
The rising of the moon
Bring down the lamp

Dunno if there are multiple version circulating, like with If I should fall..., with different tracklistings.

1. Depends on version. It's so called UK revised release...

2. Shane MacGowan and the Popes -- The Song With No Name (single)
Shane MacGowan and Sinead O'Connor -- Haunted (single)
Shane MacGowan & The Popes - Live at Montreux 1995 (DVD)

Maija wrote:The one I've got has this tracklisting:

The Church of the Holy Spook
That woman's got me drinking
The song with no name
Aisling
I'll be your handbag
Her father didn't like me anyway
A Mexican funeral in Paris
The snake with eyes of garnet
Donegal Express
Victoria
The rising of the moon
Bring down the lamp

It must be "original" issue

MacRua wrote:

Maija wrote:The one I've got has this tracklisting:

It must be "original" issue

The other one looks better... i.e. has more songs on it Hm. Haven't listened to it in years, but I have a 20 hour bus ride coming up, so I guess I'll put it into my little travel CD box.

MacRua wrote:

Maija wrote:The one I've got has this tracklisting:

The Church of the Holy Spook
That woman's got me drinking
The song with no name
Aisling
I'll be your handbag
Her father didn't like me anyway
A Mexican funeral in Paris
The snake with eyes of garnet
Donegal Express
Victoria
The rising of the moon
Bring down the lamp

It must be "original" issue

it is. i got it round 95/96 then first seen the revised one a few years later

I'm sure that i read an interview with shane around the time of the snake's release. What i remember was that the record compay wanted to realease the singles from the snake with bonus songs on, that weren't on the album. To force people to buy both the singles and the album.

But then came the second (Full??) Version

record companies, money grabbibg --------

Niall wrote:record companies, money grabbibg --------

Nothing new there then eh??

Niall wrote:record companies, money grabbibg --------

That might be so, but right now I prefer that they do it like that instead of going bankrupt all the time.

Let's face it, there's only three record companies left anyway......

RE Haunted w. S. O'Connor
Anyone know who sings backing vocals during the line "all those lies that you never believed"? Sounds like Spider. The "reissued" Snake with the "Bonus Tracks" appeared shortly after the original (I think). I remember that i had just got into the Pogues about 2 years before that and i was hungry for new stuff - bought The Snake, then shortly after saw the "reissued" one - was a bit pissed off but bought it too! I'm now the proud owner of two CASSETTES of The Snake. Problem now will probably be getting a cassette player to play them on!

In fairness to the record company (and you won't hear me use that phrase too often), I think the re-release with the extra tracks came out after all the singles had been released and I think it's harsh to criticise them for that. If they wanted to be cynical and make a load of extra money they would have included a track or two that were unreleased so that completists would have to buy it again. As it was, there was no need to buy the re-release if you owned the singles because you would already own all the tracks. Seems fair enough in my opinion.

Regarding Shane's comments about extra tracks on the singles- I think Shane was talking about Church Of The Holy Spook. If I remember rightly, his idea was to have a limited edition single that would only be around for a while and would feature some extra tracks unavailable elsewhere.

Michaelo wrote:In fairness to the record company (and you won't hear me use that phrase too often), I think the re-release with the extra tracks came out after all the singles had been released and I think it's harsh to criticise them for that. If they wanted to be cynical and make a load of extra money they would have included a track or two that were unreleased so that completists would have to buy it again. As it was, there was no need to buy the re-release if you owned the singles because you would already own all the tracks. Seems fair enough in my opinion.

Regarding Shane's comments about extra tracks on the singles- I think Shane was talking about Church Of The Holy Spook. If I remember rightly, his idea was to have a limited edition single that would only be around for a while and would feature some extra tracks unavailable elsewhere.

Or was it That Woman's Got Me Drinking?
It was one or the other.

There was 3 versions of this album on cd.
1994 The original 12 track release.
1995 US release with 3 bonus tracks.
1995 European reissue with 4 bonus tracks.

Bonus tracks:
Haunted (with Sinead O'Connor)
Nancy Whiskey
Roddy McCorley
You're The One ( With maire Brennan, Not on the US release)

The sleeve on the European reissue featured Shane on the cross. The US release featured a close up from the same photo. Only Shanes photo was showing.