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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:21 am
by MacRua
To Tom Wade
shane has confessed to most of the things mentioned, too. the drink and drug usage. so what was between shane and god...he told us about.

It’s up to him!
Someone may throw away his dirty sheet. Why to pick it up and jolly run around with it?

We used to manage with words too flippantly.
Most of us would revolt if someone dared to count steaks or candies we do per day (“hey it’s privacy violence, mind your own business!”) but we easily let ourselves count others’ drugs, slag others’ partners, give them business advices, etc.

Yes, most people know Shane as “that toothless drunkard with drug abuse, who will pass in a month” (thank you very much, our dear mass media). Imagine one of them wanting to learn more about the man will peep into forum and what he will find here? “normal man would be dead by now with the amount of drink n drugs shane as taken over the last 10 years. “ Great!
We are supposed to be his fans, yeah? And this is supposed to be a forum of true connoisseur of pogues’ creations (not lovers of naughty rumours), right? I would not like to see this decent place turning into filial of some yellow tabloid.

You say we all know he did it? Ok we know it (or rather something about it). But we also know he does loads of other things too (if you know what i mean), should we discuss them here?

There are loads of great topics regarding Shane and The Pogues: favourite album, favourite, song, favourite line (I am waiting impatiently for favourite word and favourite letter). The great Band is an endless source of topics for really constructive conversation! It’s a kind of humiliation for such great musicians to be an inspiration for “drug” gabbing.

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It's my personal opinion, not a personal attack on you, Tom (or you, Simon). I am just fed up with all that silly stereotypes and senseless accusations.
And yes, i am glad to admit it again - he looks great now! Well done, Shane ! :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:30 am
by firehazard
MacRua wrote:There are loads of great topic regarding Shane and The Pogues: favourite album, favourite, song, favourite line (I am waiting impatiently for favourite word and favourite letter). :wink:


OK, here goes: favourite letter has to be S - it's just the way he sings it. Followed closely by D. Brilliant. :wink:

(PS Thanks for some perspective on this issue, MacRua. :) )

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:31 pm
by philipchevron
Well put, Macrua.

With Shane - with anyone - you have to try to accept the whole deal - the demons and angels that make him who he is are also the demons and angels that make him capable of the wonderful lyrics people have been quoting in another thread.

Anything else is just gossip.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:30 pm
by Simon Maguire
We are supposed to be his fans, yeah? And this is supposed to be a forum of true connoisseur of pogues’ creations (not lovers of naughty rumours), right? I would not like to see this decent place turning into filial of some yellow tabloid.


Agreed :wink:

I much rather talk about the pogues music, then there personnal lifes (no offence lads i'm sure you all lead entertaining lifestyle) and have done most of the time, but its such an obvious thing to pick up on with shane macgowan, so i just though id post an observation thats all and no disrespect to shane (who i believe to be God anyway) or 2 MacRua. :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 2:04 pm
by MacRua
Great but this:
... to shane (who i believe to be God anyway)

looks like a disrespect to God (with all my respect to Mr.MacGowan and you, Simon) :roll:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:30 pm
by Simon Maguire
fuck me your hard to agree with, officaly given up mate. :roll:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:46 pm
by MacRua
I mean I am a die-hard fan of both but i wouldn't venture to call Shane "God". As well as to call God "Shane"...

Yes, I know, I can be true pain in the neck :wink:

carmens827

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:39 pm
by carmens827
but at some point , maybe sooner than later, shane will realize what he has meant to thousand of fans--does he now? does he care? do drugs and drink make him not give a shit?im just one of many who hope he gets better---he still has alot more to give .yes--its all been said before i know.but it breaks my heart.... :( viva shane!

At least he can sing these days..

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:37 pm
by Simon
Great words MacRua.I discovered the pogues in 1989 at the age of 13. And tired of people giving Shane the manual howe to live his life. But i agree he look like he is in great shape these days.cross my fingers for a new album :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:22 am
by Hellbeard
Ehm, I dont really think it's "up to him". Clearly the drugs rule him and not the other way around..

Watching that video made me go kind of sad.. poor guy. Atleast he seem to be better off now when the drugs might be out of the picture.. its not an easy task to get rid of an alcohol addiction though.

I will follow the great man whatever happens though. Hehe.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:35 pm
by kooper bla
Mick Molloy wrote:If you want to see Shane fucked up watch his gig with the Popes at Pinkpop 95 and it was the first time I saw him and after that I knew: "I want to be like Shane"


Wasn't that the show when he fainted(?) on stage? Or was that an other festival in Holland?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:38 pm
by duncan disorderly
Hes on a fucking come back you cynical bastards!!
Give the man some credit .I see him last yerar in a wheel chair1!
Where is he now ???
On a stage near you so fuck off.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:40 pm
by duncan disorderly
....And wel put MaCrua

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:46 pm
by Simon Maguire
one last thing to say on the matter, and to be honest I don't give two shits what anyone thinks or says or posts.


LONG LIVE SHANE,

if shanes happy i'm happy. my case is closed

points are taken and supriseingly much respected MacRua.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:42 pm
by carmen
simon--i try to email you but your mail is returned --do you have another email address??

carmens827@aol.com