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DATES: September - October, 2010 (with new band included!)

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Post Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:20 am

Fucking hell, I could have lived without seeing Shane fellating that mic. Great version of Sayanora otherwise.

White City sounds very Clash-y.

London Girl! Live! Rehearse, Shane!

I like that Her Father as well.

Thank you Paul for doing this and all.
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Post Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:01 am

Smerker wrote:Fucking hell, I could have lived without seeing Shane fellating that mic. Great version of Sayanora otherwise.

White City sounds very Clash-y.

London Girl! Live! Rehearse, Shane!

I like that Her Father as well.

Thank you Paul for doing this and all.



Interesting you say 'White City' sounds very Clash-y. There was a certain Mick Jones in the audience. I spoke to him briefly. He was very friendly to me, and anyone else, who I saw approach him. I think a certain Fr. McGreer from these fora may have got a picture with himself and Mr. Jones, who incidentally, went up on stage and embraced Shane.
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Post Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:05 am

Oh yeah, setlist was the same as for Howth. There weren't as many key and cue problems as at Howth. The sound was also much better. The first 3 songs sounded brutal from the front. Fr. McGreer assures me the audio experience was better further back. He wasn't much further back, mind you, as it was less than 40ft from the bar to the stage. I found myself a comfortable vantage point up the front for the last half of the show.
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Post Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:50 pm

PaulMcC wrote: I think a certain Fr. McGreer from these fora may have got a picture with himself and Mr. Jones, who incidentally, went up on stage and embraced Shane.


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Post Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:48 pm

Thanks for the clips PaulMcC. Sounds great to me i love the punk/rock n'roll sound of the songs. Now i remember why i played the snake cd almost everyday from 94-00
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Post Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:04 pm

MacRua wrote:Sun, 10 Oct, 2010 - A tribute gig to late Kirsty McColl (various artists)
Address: O2 Shepherds Bush Empire, London, UK
Web: http://aconcertforkirsty.com
Tickets: SOLD OUT


Source (the indispensable...) says Shane's disappointingly pulled a George Jones on this one.

I reckon Billy'll take his place with Amy MacDonald.
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:48 am

Smerker wrote:
MacRua wrote:Sun, 10 Oct, 2010 - A tribute gig to late Kirsty McColl (various artists)
Address: O2 Shepherds Bush Empire, London, UK
Web: http://aconcertforkirsty.com
Tickets: SOLD OUT


Source (the indispensable...) says Shane's disappointingly pulled a George Jones on this one.

I reckon Billy'll take his place with Amy MacDonald.



This is really disappointing! has anyone more informations about this? it´s sad not just because in my opinion amy macdonald made a really good job but also because i always thought kirsty maccoll meant something to him and the pogues. it was disappointing enough that the other pogues members had something more important to do that night. don´t wanna sound unfair but it´s a strange story...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk_zDwx9Lr8
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:00 am

lavabe wrote:
Smerker wrote:
MacRua wrote:Sun, 10 Oct, 2010 - A tribute gig to late Kirsty McColl (various artists)
Address: O2 Shepherds Bush Empire, London, UK
Web: http://aconcertforkirsty.com
Tickets: SOLD OUT


Source (the indispensable...) says Shane's disappointingly pulled a George Jones on this one.

I reckon Billy'll take his place with Amy MacDonald.



This is really disappointing! has anyone more informations about this? it´s sad not just because in my opinion amy macdonald made a really good job but also because i always thought kirsty maccoll meant something to him and the pogues. it was disappointing enough that the other pogues members had something more important to do that night. don´t wanna sound unfair but it´s a strange story...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk_zDwx9Lr8


I was speaking to the host for the evening Phil Jupitus at the bar before hand and he said that Shanes agent called a mere 30 mins before to say that he was still in Dublin and had missed his flight.

I agree with you, Amy MacDonald was absolutely fantastic and Dave the drummer did a great job. I too thought that Shane had more respect for Kirsty. Disappointed fan here, too.
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:41 pm

it hurts me to say this but i agree with the above posts, as much as i adore shane for his music i recall i was at the first gig he did with the popes in nottingham only days after kirsty was tragically killed and not once he did he mention her name or even dedicate a song to her, another dissapointed fan
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:41 pm

gerrybhoy wrote:it hurts me to say this but i agree with the above posts, as much as i adore shane for his music i recall i was at the first gig he did with the popes in nottingham only days after kirsty was tragically killed and not once he did he mention her name or even dedicate a song to her, another dissapointed fan


Look, when you, and the rest of the piranhas, realise that Kirsty MacColl was our beloved friend first and only then our esteemed musical colleague, perhaps you will consider permitting myself, Shane and the rest of the Pogues to honour and remember her in a way that she, and we, would have understood. Any old pillock can get up on a stage and satisfy some morbid need for public affirmation of his grief. It makes me gag just to think about how Kirsty would have viewed this misjudged attempt to regulate her memory.

Personally, I applaud those friends and colleagues who both commemorated her 51st birthday and raised useful funds for her charities, but if everyone who loved, admired or merely respected Kirsty and/or her work, were to appear at every memorial, the gig would still be going on a week later. The Pogues do not own the memory of Kirsty MacColl. Kirsty herself gave up her career for several years to devote her time to her lovely sons Jamie and Louis because she insisted that private lives come first.

As Paul McCartney said when informed of Lennon's death, "it's a drag, isn't it?"
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:46 pm

gerrybhoy wrote:it hurts me to say this but i agree with the above posts, as much as i adore shane for his music i recall i was at the first gig he did with the popes in nottingham only days after kirsty was tragically killed and not once he did he mention her name or even dedicate a song to her, another dissapointed fan


puhhh...think we are at a point where it would be nice if someone from the inner circle around shane would give us a little kind of a statement about what happened or what this all means...don´t leave us alone with bad feelings or just agree with us that this is all gone wrong.
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:50 pm

lavabe wrote:
gerrybhoy wrote:it hurts me to say this but i agree with the above posts, as much as i adore shane for his music i recall i was at the first gig he did with the popes in nottingham only days after kirsty was tragically killed and not once he did he mention her name or even dedicate a song to her, another dissapointed fan


puhhh...think we are at a point where it would be nice if someone from the inner circle around shane would give us a little kind of a statement about what happened or what this all means...don´t leave us alone with bad feelings or just agree with us that this is all gone wrong.


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Post Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:13 pm

I made my first trip across the Atlantic to Ireland at the end of September. It happily coincided with Shane playing in Dublin on Arthur's Day, the newish made up Guiness holiday. I had a great chat with Mick Jones before hand. Tony James wasn't as friendly, but still nice.

I had a great time at the show. Shane was drunker than i have seen him before. It was a decent show, but as I have thought before, it's no Pogues show. The band was just ok. I'm to the point that I'd see the Pogues without Shane way before I'd see Shane without them. The Pogues as a band are still flipping great. just MHO.
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:43 pm

philipchevron wrote:
lavabe wrote:
gerrybhoy wrote:it hurts me to say this but i agree with the above posts, as much as i adore shane for his music i recall i was at the first gig he did with the popes in nottingham only days after kirsty was tragically killed and not once he did he mention her name or even dedicate a song to her, another dissapointed fan


puhhh...think we are at a point where it would be nice if someone from the inner circle around shane would give us a little kind of a statement about what happened or what this all means...don´t leave us alone with bad feelings or just agree with us that this is all gone wrong.


And that goes double for you.



sorry philip...wrote my quote at the same time you wrote yours...so i didn´t see it. so thx for this.
to make it clear i totally respect your point of view (think you speak for the other band members too) and this is all ok for me and understandable...you don´t have to be part of such kind of events. but with shane it´s another story...he was on the line-up, wasn´t he? and he didn´t made it. and noone knows why. just some rumours, thats all....was he too drunk and that kind of stuff...no official statement. isn´t that a little bit respectless? that was the problem and still is. and as far as i can see i`m not the only one with that point of view.
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Post Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:52 pm

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philipchevron wrote:
lavabe wrote:
gerrybhoy wrote:it hurts me to say this but i agree with the above posts, as much as i adore shane for his music i recall i was at the first gig he did with the popes in nottingham only days after kirsty was tragically killed and not once he did he mention her name or even dedicate a song to her, another dissapointed fan


puhhh...think we are at a point where it would be nice if someone from the inner circle around shane would give us a little kind of a statement about what happened or what this all means...don´t leave us alone with bad feelings or just agree with us that this is all gone wrong.


And that goes double for you.



sorry philip...wrote my quote at the same time you wrote yours...so i didn´t see it. so thx for this.
to make it clear i totally respect your point of view (think you speak for the other band members too) and this is all ok for me and understandable...you don´t have to be part of such kind of events. but with shane it´s another story...he was on the line-up, wasn´t he? and he didn´t made it. and noone knows why. just some rumours, thats all....was he too drunk and that kind of stuff...no official statement. isn´t that a little bit respectless? that was the problem and still is. and as far as i can see i`m not the only one with that point of view.


Was Shane on the bill? I don't know that and neither do you. As far as I can see, Shane says yes to just about everything, but whether that amounts to a definite commitment is something for the individual consciences of promoters. My sense is that Shane agreeing to do something like this invariably comes with the tacit "if I can" attached, for better or worse. But I can usually make a private guess how likely his participation will be and am not often wrong. How difficult can it be for other people to do the same? We're talking Shane MacGowan here, not Jedward.
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