The Rare Oul' Stuff

[in_the_morning]

Good Evening!

I don't think there is a topic about "The Rare Oul' Stuff" on this forum? I just bought it together with "Across the Broad Atlantic" and they are both brilliant. Does anybody own a copy of it? What's your favorite track?

The songs on "Rare Oul' Stuff" are from the albums "Snake" and "Crock of Gold" and some Singles and EP's as well. I really love the cover of "Cracklin Rosie", altough I heard it on a live DVD and it was faster and sounded even better. The traditional "Nancy Whiskey" is brilliant as well. From Shane's own songs I prefer "Song with no name" and "Aisling", well in fact all songs are really good.

Does anybody own "The Ultimate Pogues Collection"? I suppose there is a live show on that one, as well, but as the title says, with the Pogues. Is it worth buying? I suppose it is ?

[Alex]

Does anybody own "The Ultimate Pogues Collection"? I suppose there is a live show on that one, as well, but as the title says, with the Pogues. Is it worth buying? I suppose it is ?

Sofort kaufen!! The Live-Show is from the first Reunion Tour in 2001.

[firehazard]

Does anybody own "The Ultimate Pogues Collection"? I suppose there is a live show on that one, as well, but as the title says, with the Pogues. Is it worth buying? I suppose it is ?

It's worth buying for the live CD in its own right. A joyful thing. Better than drugs it is.

[in_the_morning]

Does anybody own "The Ultimate Pogues Collection"? I suppose there is a live show on that one, as well, but as the title says, with the Pogues. Is it worth buying? I suppose it is ?

Sofort kaufen!! The Live-Show is from the first Reunion Tour in 2001.

Jemand aus Deutschland! Wo kommst Du/kommen Sie her?

I'm going to buy "The Ultimate Collection" when there is new money in the house.

You should buy "Rare Ould Stuff" my friends, brilliant music!

[Indio]

I was rather unimpressed with the Rare Aul Stuff CD. All the good songs on it are from The Snake. But unlike simply playing your copy of The Snake, you have to wade through a bunch of mediocre tracks from the forgettable Crock of Gold album, and some truly bad rarities. I mean come on, "Christmas Lullaby," "Danny Boy" and the Popes version of "Rake at the Gates of Hell" are all pretty bad.

I love Shane of course, but this disc kind of goes to show that The Snake was the pinnacle of his solo work.

[dublinrambler]

you have to wade through a bunch of mediocre tracks from the forgettable Crock of Gold album, and some truly bad rarities. I mean come on, "Christmas Lullaby," "Danny Boy" and the Popes version of "Rake at the Gates of Hell" are all pretty bad.

Crock of Gold, Forgettable? Are you fucking kidding?

[in_the_morning]

I was rather unimpressed with the Rare Aul Stuff CD. All the good songs on it are from The Snake. But unlike simply playing your copy of The Snake, you have to wade through a bunch of mediocre tracks from the forgettable Crock of Gold album, and some truly bad rarities. I mean come on, "Christmas Lullaby," "Danny Boy" and the Popes version of "Rake at the Gates of Hell" are all pretty bad.

I love Shane of course, but this disc kind of goes to show that The Snake was the pinnacle of his solo work.

I thought that the singing on "Christmas Lullaby" was kind of crap, compared to his other works, but the song in general is brilliant I think. It's partly borrowed from "Lucy" by Nick Cave. I do prefer the Pogues version of "Danny Boy" they did on a BBC-Show. But the Popes version of "Rake at the Gates..." wasn't bad in my opinion. I liked the bassplaying on that one.

Although I don't own "Crock of Gold", I suppose the songs on that one are great, too. "Rock n' Roll Paddy" was really catchy and "More Pricks than Kicks" was great, too. And the others as well. A song by Shane MacGowan I really dislike is called something like "B & I Ferry...", also on "Crock of Gold".

[The Duke of Ingmar]

"St. John of Gods" is one of Shane´s best ever songs. And it´s on Crock of gold. ´nuff said.

[Indio]

Okay, maybe I can soften my position and admit that there are some individual songs on Crock of Gold that aren't totally forgettable (I do like More Pricks Than Kicks). All I know is that I've owned that CD for years and never play it, while I still do enjoy the Snake and his work with the Pogues quite a bit.

My issue with Crock of Gold is that the vocals sound so tired and badly slurred, it's like Shane wasn't even trying on that album. And the Popes arrangements always sounded like they could benefit from some better mixing or production or something to give them a little more kick. It's not all bad, but it's definitely at the bottom of my list in terms of Shane's recorded output.

[in_the_morning]

My issue with Crock of Gold is that the vocals sound so tired and badly slurred, it's like Shane wasn't even trying on that album

Agree. And on "Across the Broad Atlantic" Live show (from 2001 I believe) he sounds so much more powerful and strong. There is "More Pricks than Kicks" played live, it does sound better than the album version.

On "St. John of Gods" Shane MacGowan's "tired" vocals, as you called them, do work well I think. As you get the image of this "crushed up man" saying: Fuck All...the voice suits on that one, as well as on "Long Lonesome Highway".

[Smerker -unlogged]

Crock of Gold's a real grower.

[old barney greyheron]

Crock of Gold 'forgetable'....??? Shocked I am...love it to bits...better than The Snake by a country mile...still, music, like so many things, is all about opinions.

[IrishRover]

Croick Of Goild ois exactly that, pure essentoial goild.. RNR Paddy, Loinesoime Hoigway, Paddy Publoic Enemy No.1, Moire Proicks Than Koicks, Back OIn The Coiunty Hell, Moither Mo Chroi !!!!! etc. BUT then agaoin, essence's noit meant foir everyoine, thats foir sure. Chroistmas Lullaby ois the best Chroistmas song of all toimes, aloing woith Faoirytale of coiurse.

[Dopey]

Okay, maybe I can soften my position and admit that there are some individual songs on Crock of Gold that aren't totally forgettable (I do like More Pricks Than Kicks). All I know is that I've owned that CD for years and never play it, while I still do enjoy the Snake and his work with the Pogues quite a bit.

My issue with Crock of Gold is that the vocals sound so tired and badly slurred, it's like Shane wasn't even trying on that album. And the Popes arrangements always sounded like they could benefit from some better mixing or production or something to give them a little more kick. It's not all bad, but it's definitely at the bottom of my list in terms of Shane's recorded output.

I remember speaking to one of The Popes at a Popes' gig around the time of their first EP coming out, and he said that the mixes used by ZTT for the album were rough mixes and not final, so blame ZTT if it sounds not as good as it could have.

[in_the_morning]

Okay, maybe I can soften my position and admit that there are some individual songs on Crock of Gold that aren't totally forgettable (I do like More Pricks Than Kicks). All I know is that I've owned that CD for years and never play it, while I still do enjoy the Snake and his work with the Pogues quite a bit.

My issue with Crock of Gold is that the vocals sound so tired and badly slurred, it's like Shane wasn't even trying on that album. And the Popes arrangements always sounded like they could benefit from some better mixing or production or something to give them a little more kick. It's not all bad, but it's definitely at the bottom of my list in terms of Shane's recorded output.

I remember speaking to one of The Popes at a Popes' gig around the time of their first EP coming out, and he said that the mixes used by ZTT for the album were rough mixes and not final, so blame ZTT if it sounds not as good as it could have.

Sorry but I don't know what ZTT is?