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Post Sat May 13, 2006 8:26 pm

The Sex Pistols covered this traditional in Feb of 1979. It's a mix of traditional song and punk style and attitude (or as Mr. Rotten puts it - "Hold on; give it some bollocks!").

I wonder if this cover had any influence on Shane and his early ideas of playing traditionals with the energy and enthusiasm of punk? Anyone know if there's some kind of lineage between this performance and what eventually became The Pogues?
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Post Sun May 14, 2006 7:18 pm

DzM wrote:The Sex Pistols covered this traditional in Feb of 1979. It's a mix of traditional song and punk style and attitude (or as Mr. Rotten puts it - "Hold on; give it some bollocks!").


I could be wrong DZM but i think it's actually Steve Jones who says "Hold On - give it some bollocks!!!" .
Interesting point though .
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Post Sun May 14, 2006 10:53 pm

Caukill wrote:I could be wrong DZM but i think it's actually Steve Jones who says "Hold On - give it some bollocks!!!" .
Best guess on my part. I am certain I'm wrong.
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Post Sun May 14, 2006 10:59 pm

It's an intriguing notion though.. I can see where you're coming from...
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Post Mon May 15, 2006 7:07 am

Always loved the song :lol: One of the best (or the best) by SP as for me ...
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Post Tue May 16, 2006 5:51 pm

DzM wrote:(or as Mr. Rotten puts it - "Hold on; give it some bollocks!").

Johnny Rotten had already left the Sex Pistols (the famous "Ever felt like you've been cheated?") by the time Great Rock N Roll Swindle was made and had nothing do with the songs or production. I've avoided buying that album, despite being something of a Steve Jones fan. Never liked Sid Vicious. The song Silly Thing really has something special and alot of it has to do with Steve's vocal. And his shit-load of guitar.
I've heard the song and it's an intriguing notion. We know Shane was and remains a massive Sex Pistols fan, and the punking up of a traditional number could have kicked up the thought process that was continued with Ska and 2-tone before he had his great epiphany.
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Post Tue May 16, 2006 11:54 pm

Smerker wrote:
DzM wrote:(or as Mr. Rotten puts it - "Hold on; give it some bollocks!").

Johnny Rotten had already left the Sex Pistols (the famous "Ever felt like you've been cheated?") by the time Great Rock N Roll Swindle was made and had nothing do with the songs or production. I've avoided buying that album, despite being something of a Steve Jones fan. Never liked Sid Vicious. The song Silly Thing really has something special and alot of it has to do with Steve's vocal. And his shit-load of guitar.


The vocal of 'Silly Thing' on the album is actually Paul Cook ! It's funny - i'd probably fall down on my twelve times table but i appear to have retained lots of useless info about the Sex Pistols !!
'Silly Thing' still sounds good now.
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Post Wed May 17, 2006 6:40 am

Smerker wrote: I've avoided buying that album...

Quite the contrary here. Swindle is the only album I bothered to get. And it was a real hunting some years ago. Could not find it on CD, managed to obtain cassette only. And all the asperities just for the sake of Friggin song :) The rest is great too, Bambi, Hands - class. The only problem is cassette constituent of my stereo collapsed two years ago, playing Swindle :) at my birthday party :lol:
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Post Wed May 17, 2006 12:22 pm

Caukill wrote:The vocal of 'Silly Thing' on the album is actually Paul Cook !

Damn. I bought the bloody Neurotic Outsiders album just because of the way Paul sang that song. Angelina and Revolution were okaaay, but...
Do you know where I might find some more Paul vocals?
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Post Wed May 17, 2006 3:59 pm

Smerker wrote:
Caukill wrote:The vocal of 'Silly Thing' on the album is actually Paul Cook !

Damn. I bought the bloody Neurotic Outsiders album just because of the way Paul sang that song. Angelina and Revolution were okaaay, but...
Do you know where I might find some more Paul vocals?


Hmm, not sure . Maybe some vocals with The Professionals which is the band Paul & Steve formed post-Pistols. Sure there must be a cd somewhere.
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Post Wed May 17, 2006 4:07 pm

Cool! A mate's selling me his Professional cds!
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Post Thu May 25, 2006 1:38 am

Caukill wrote:
Smerker wrote:
Caukill wrote:The vocal of 'Silly Thing' on the album is actually Paul Cook !

Damn. I bought the bloody Neurotic Outsiders album just because of the way Paul sang that song. Angelina and Revolution were okaaay, but...
Do you know where I might find some more Paul vocals?


Hmm, not sure . Maybe some vocals with The Professionals which is the band Paul & Steve formed post-Pistols. Sure there must be a cd somewhere.


Funny....just earlier as I was having dinner I threw on a dvd comp of old Pistols footage and there's a video on there for "Silly Thing," but with Jones doing the singing. I think it's the version used in the Swindle movie itself, but the version on the Swindle album definitely has Cook on vocals. I've never been able to find out if there's a 7" version or some other release with the Jones-vocal. Personally, I prefer Cook's vocals on the tune. The video cracks me up -- Steve and Paul look all dolled up, almost boyband-like. Trying to pull birds, I guess.

As for the Professionals, it's all Steve Jones vocals. And good stuff at that. There are two main cds out there -- one is the studio album I Didn't See It Coming, with a bunch of single tracks and b-sides tacked on; the other is just called The Professionals, which is harder, earlier versions of many of the album tracks recorded as a 3-piece, with many of the same bonus tracks tacked on. I think Virgin might've released some other comp too that mixes and matches various tracks from the first two cd releases (they love milking back catalogues), but I could be wrong about that.
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Post Thu May 25, 2006 1:56 pm

I got the Professionals CD today and Paul does sing on a few tracks. It's a cool Best of thing.
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Post Thu May 25, 2006 11:15 pm

Lemmy wrote:As for the Professionals, it's all Steve Jones vocals. And good stuff at that. There are two main cds out there -- one is the studio album I Didn't See It Coming, with a bunch of single tracks and b-sides tacked on; the other is just called The Professionals, which is harder, earlier versions of many of the album tracks recorded as a 3-piece, with many of the same bonus tracks tacked on. I think Virgin might've released some other comp too that mixes and matches various tracks from the first two cd releases (they love milking back catalogues), but I could be wrong about that.


i'm really tempted to get ' i didn't see it coming' , i used to have '1-2-3' which was a great track .
Am definately gonna watch '....Swindle' again this weekend too .
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Post Sun Jun 11, 2006 5:47 am

I always thought it was Steve Jones. Its a long time since i saw the film but he sings it on there doesnt he?.
Anyone got a link where i can hear the Proffesionals or any other Cook/Jones stuff.?
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