Pogues 'historical' sites in London

**Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:18 am**

gotta visit some of these spots in....2 weeks(yikes!)

**Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:22 am**

It was but the whole areais due upgrade Merry Ist of xmas BY TH WAY

**Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:10 pm**

Yes merry Christmas. make London what you like. There are many opportunities there. But if you are looking for a soul you had better provide it yourself. Try walking through the City in the early hours. See the stone and black statues like a smack on the head. Crush you flat and the whole story of your life like a discarded pet tortoise who crawled onto the M25. Clubbing? Go to jail just passing through on the way to collect a big salary in the media. Dublin to Delhi are sniffing at its arse. All line up for the new world. Bulgarian Big Brother. The sniffing suburbs. Irish theme pubs out of fashion a generation satisfied and absorbed. Moved to New Zealand. Long term dole scroungers of Cricklewood. In a band. 95% of native genes in these isles are from colonisation just after the ice age, invaders made little impact, just like the Normans. If you go back twenty generations, just five hundred years, you have over a million direct ancestors. Celtic myths. Make your own myths. You are a myth. Be a legend. Everything you have done is a story that cannot be altered. There is no story bigger than a person. Hug a pedestal embrace a paving stone. Ogham, London. The starving suburbs. Come and feel my arse. Just turn on. Webcam wNK. Buswaymen. Fifteen was old enough in the fifteen hundreds. I am young enough to travel free. Driver! Hungry dogs don't care about knives and knuckledusters. I met a man in Sligo. He told me his wonderful memories of building the airport and hospital. the wonderful English pubs. He complained about the new dual carriageway outside his front door, the first of things to come. Built by Poles. They don't like them because....... New housing needed in England for all the single people. Come and take a look around. Flatland. Talk is cheap. No interest. The riddler. the fiddler. Hope your hangover gets you square. Arse meets dream, up the apple and pears. Looking for love. Dot come. Giv us a kiss. Gewon I'm sorry Iam piss. Amplified siss. Puke hraagh, a quick one off the wrist. On London. An Aussi alley piss. Cum leave your tag on a train on the way out. Brains are great. Aren't they? When it rains just wait.

**Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:35 pm**

Keir wrote:Yes merry Christmas. make London what you like. There are many opportunities there. But if you are looking for a soul you had better provide it yourself. Try walking through the City in the early hours. See the stone and black statues like a smack on the head. Crush you flat and the whole story of your life like a discarded pet tortoise who crawled onto the M25. Clubbing? Go to jail just passing through on the way to collect a big salary in the media. Dublin to Delhi are sniffing at its arse. All line up for the new world. Bulgarian Big Brother. The sniffing suburbs. Irish theme pubs out of fashion a generation satisfied and absorbed. Moved to New Zealand. Long term dole scroungers of Cricklewood. In a band. 95% of native genes in these isles are from colonisation just after the ice age, invaders made little impact, just like the Normans. If you go back twenty generations, just five hundred years, you have over a million direct ancestors. Celtic myths. Make your own myths. You are a myth. Be a legend. Everything you have done is a story that cannot be altered. There is no story bigger than a person. Hug a pedestal embrace a paving stone. Ogham, London. The starving suburbs. Come and feel my arse. Just turn on. Webcam wNK. Buswaymen. Fifteen was old enough in the fifteen hundreds. I am young enough to travel free. Driver! Hungry dogs don't care about knives and knuckledusters. I met a man in Sligo. He told me his wonderful memories of building the airport and hospital. the wonderful English pubs. He complained about the new dual carriageway outside his front door, the first of things to come. Built by Poles. They don't like them because....... New housing needed in England for all the single people. Come and take a look around. Flatland. Talk is cheap. No interest. The riddler. the fiddler. Hope your hangover gets you square. Arse meets dream, up the apple and pears. Looking for love. Dot come. Giv us a kiss. Gewon I'm sorry Iam piss. Amplified siss. Puke hraagh, a quick one off the wrist. On London. An Aussi alley piss. Cum leave your tag on a train on the way out. Brains are great. Aren't they? When it rains just wait.

Just off the top off your 'ead like?

**Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:53 pm**

Kirsty bench here:

http://www.kirstymaccoll.com/informatio ... /index.htm

**Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:17 am**

Caukill wrote:Just off the top off your 'ead like?

An answer ?

**Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:11 pm**

For four or five years in the early 1980s I was caretaker of the Hillview estate in Kings X. I used to listen to the Pogue Mahones rehearsing in Jem Finer's flat on the top floor of Whidbourne House, long before their first successes.

I used to push my broom around amongst the detritus (this was a very dodgy estate, lots of prostitution, smack dealing and the like) and reflect on whether I should persecute this rowdy band, who appeared to my clearly undiscerning ears to have no audible talent, and who were obviously disturbing the peace and the neighbourhood.

Fortunately, my libertarian instincts prevailed, and aside from picking an intoxicated Shane out of the Midhope St gutter on one or two occasions, took no active part in the life of the band (although I did try very hard to get some rent off them, to little avail).

**Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:48 am**

shane was a barman at "the griffin", charing cross in the 70's, union tavern i think around holborn, dundee arms bethnal green, columbia hotel , hyde park corner, the roundhouse camden town, the boogaloo highgate, any pub on seven sisters/hollway road lol............... hope that helps...... also look up a site called "derelictlondon" has heaps of pub history, also music venues/pubs there as well, worth a look...........

**Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:25 am**

"Sally MacLennane" is supposedly written in the light of Shane's experiences at his uncle's pub in Dagenham. Does anyone know the name of the pub?

I've got a feeling I may have known this once, but I just can't remember.

**Tue May 08, 2007 10:52 pm**

Thanks for this thread; I'll be able to use the information in it in about a month... The Pindar of Wakefield/ Water Rats definitely sounds like a good historical site to check out.

I'll probably be trying to map out my own Pogues tour soon

**Wed May 30, 2007 12:39 pm**

Marathon, 87 Chalk Farm Rd, NW1 8AR, London

**Wed May 30, 2007 11:04 pm**

strummercalling wrote:Thanks for this thread; I'll be able to use the information in it in about a month... The Pindar of Wakefield/ Water Rats definitely sounds like a good historical site to check out.

I'll probably be trying to map out my own Pogues tour soon

There´s a book called "THOSE TOURISTS ARE MONEY - THE ROCK N ROLL GUIDE TO CAMDEN" by Ann Scanlon (who also wrote the first Pogues biography about lots of interesting places around Camden Town. The Pogues and Shane are mentioned a lot and there should be several places to visit there. Been a while since I read it but worth getting if it´s still available.

**Thu May 31, 2007 11:03 am**

mats wrote:There´s a book called "THOSE TOURISTS ARE MONEY - THE ROCK N ROLL GUIDE TO CAMDEN" by Ann Scanlon (who also wrote the first Pogues biography about lots of interesting places around Camden Town. The Pogues and Shane are mentioned a lot and there should be several places to visit there. Been a while since I read it but worth getting if it´s still available.

Oh it's available alright - a steal at £160...

**Thu May 31, 2007 11:23 am**

John C wrote:
mats wrote:There´s a book called "THOSE TOURISTS ARE MONEY - THE ROCK N ROLL GUIDE TO CAMDEN" by Ann Scanlon (who also wrote the first Pogues biography about lots of interesting places around Camden Town. The Pogues and Shane are mentioned a lot and there should be several places to visit there. Been a while since I read it but worth getting if it´s still available.

Oh it's available alright - a steal at £160...

I can travel to London for that money

**Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:39 pm**

mats wrote:
There´s a book called "THOSE TOURISTS ARE MONEY - THE ROCK N ROLL GUIDE TO CAMDEN" by Ann Scanlon (who also wrote the first Pogues biography about lots of interesting places around Camden Town. The Pogues and Shane are mentioned a lot and there should be several places to visit there. Been a while since I read it but worth getting if it´s still available.

Is that the book were she writes about Spider, Shane, Kirsty and Steve Earl doing a 24h drinking session in some pub or am I misstaken.

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