Pogues 'historical' sites in London

[philipchevron]

I went on a Pogues Tour of London once. I tried to find the Pindar of Wakefield which is supposed to be on Kings Cross Road, but failed.

It's still there - it's now callled The Water Rats.

[Heather]

I went on a Pogues Tour of London once. I tried to find the Pindar of Wakefield which is supposed to be on Kings Cross Road, but failed.

It's still there - it's now callled The Water Rats.

Oh is that what happened, we thought it was something like that. Thank you Philip.

[Kilkenny Cat]

An interesting little fact....Both Bob Dylan and the Pogues played their first ever gigs at the Pindar of Wakefield.

The story goes that Dylan was in England (22nd December 1962) looking up London folk clubs and visited The Singers Club at the Pindar Of Wakefield pub in Gray's Inn Road where he performed for an enthusiastic crowd.

Club organizers Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger do not seem so impressed, however, sitting through Bob Dylan's songs "in stony silence". Meeting MacColl's daughter Kirsty some 23 years later, Bob tells her "Your Daddy didn't like me at all."

20 years later on 4th October 1982 Pogue Mahone played there

[Pogues whistle Player]

That is a fucking great story, Mark. I had absolutely no idea Dylan had played there. Also, i had forgotten the date of that first Pogues show. Now we have an anniversary.

[Guest]

The Popes also held the launch for the first single there in 1998. Spider and Shane joined the band for an encore of Irish Rover.

[Eric V]

London's a well shit place to 'tour' sober, it's depressing and very very dissapointing, you can go on the lash but it's either too dodgy (the kind of place what has regulars and nothing else) or if you're in proper london too expensive,

I want to go next year, and fortunately one of my best friends now lives there, and he is from Glasgow. Between the two of us there is no end to the drink and neither of us will run. So we'll either be in very good company being beaten up, or we will be just fine. I want to delve into the Irish parts of London.

[cougar]

thanks for sharing the photos, fun to see that

[welsh rover]

For reasons related to some particularly good weekends away watching Wales play rugby, one of the few pubs I like in London is Waxy O'Connor's off Leicester Square - I was very pleased to see in the Fairytale TV programme before Christmas that it was the venue of the first "New Republicans" gig (famed for the English squaddies throwing chips).

[Michaelo]

I often walk down the Dalling Road in Hammersmith, which is mentioned in both "Dark Streets Of London" and "Down In The Ground Where The Dead Men Go".

[Michaelo]

Hammersmith's a shit hole and should be bombed off the face of the earth.

If they bombed it enough it might look like Liverpool

[Caukill]

I want to go next year..... I want to delve into the Irish parts of London.

I can't believe no-one has spotted a gap in the market for package holidays in Kilburn & Holloway Rd!?!?

[Eric V]

I want to go next year..... I want to delve into the Irish parts of London.

I can't believe no-one has spotted a gap in the market for package holidays in Kilburn & Holloway Rd!?!?

What can I say; I have strange taste and like to go off the beaten path. I like a good city in decay.

[Michaelo]

haha You can tell when people aint been to liverpool when they slag it off.
everywhere has it faults, but it's places like Hammersmith that are nothing BUT faults.

I've been to Liverpool a couple of times. It's a place you can only like if you're a scouser. It's nowhere near as bad as Manchester though...

[philipchevron]

Aw, I love Liverpool, Ireland's 33rd County. I first played there with The Radiators in 1977 and was last there with Kathy Burke's production of The Quare Fellow year before last. It's a great and historic mercantile city, full of atmosphere and straight-up people.

[Michaelo]

...a place you can only like if you're a scouser? that might explain the hordes of tourists it gets every year from all over the world.
well the beatles explain that actually.
I won't argue because you probably went before I was born but they classed Liverpool as a third world city and that mean they had to pump money into it it's changed a lot for the better.
I've never been to Manchester, my opinions on it are all handed down from my dad who's a scouser, so I can't say I ever really want to.

I'm 35 and I was just about to criticse your cheek for the "you probably went before I was born" quote. Then I worked it out- I was last there the day Liverpool played Brentford in the FA Cup 6th round- in 1989!
Sh*t- I am getting old. Thank you for depressing me.