DVD: PAL vs NTSC

[pogues24]

My DVD is in PAL region, so I can't view this DVD with my NTSC DVD player. It keeps saying check regional code. Any way around this.

Iain

[Mick Molloy]

My DVD is in PAL region, so I can't view this DVD with my NTSC DVD player. It keeps saying check regional code. Any way around this.

Iain

Watch it on your computer and if you have a dvd writer convert it with nero or something

[Lade]

My DVD is in PAL region, so I can't view this DVD with my NTSC DVD player. It keeps saying check regional code. Any way around this.

Iain

Check this http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks website. Alot of information on how to get around the region problem on various dvd players.

[pogues24]

My mom and my stepdad have an APEX AD500 DVD player and I was reading online that it might just work, depending if the TV converts the signal.

Iain

[timlayton]

I noticed that on http://www.amazon.co.uk, they have 2 Pogues DVD's (Live at the Town & Country In, and PogueVision) for sale.
I know that they're not commercially available in the US yet. Do you know if they'd play in a standard US Dvd player? Also, do you know if there are any plans for them to ever come out in the states?

Please let me know as I really want to buy them asap if they do work in standard dvd players.

Thanks,
Cheers,
Tim

[Low D]

if you scroll down to "product details", you will see it says:

"Region: Region 2 (This DVD may not be viewable outside Europe. Read more about DVD formats.)"

one way around this is to get yourself a dvd player capable of reading ALL regions. they are really no longer specialty items. we have a cheapo dvd player came free with a bed (seriously, in canada we have furniture stores that give away free electrocin appliances) and it plays all regions.

[DzM]

It's also fairly trivial to disable region code enforcement for many DVD players.

[nboldock]

It's also fairly trivial to disable region code enforcement for many DVD players.

Indeed it is. And thanks to the lovely posters in this thread, I now have a multi-region DVD player!

Cheers ears!

[-nate-]

i'm wondering, though, if there isn't a distinction between the region settings of a dvd (the security codes) and PAL/NTSC formatting. PAL, as far as I know, has a setting of 25 frames per second whereas NTSC has a setting of 29.97 fps. there are other differences that i don't understand but aren't there two different problems here? one which has to do with security protection and the other which has to do with display of the image?

[philipchevron]

i'm wondering, though, if there isn't a distinction between the region settings of a dvd (the security codes) and PAL/NTSC formatting. PAL, as far as I know, has a setting of 25 frames per second whereas NTSC has a setting of 29.97 fps. there are other differences that i don't understand but aren't there two different problems here? one which has to do with security protection and the other which has to do with display of the image?

Now that would be my question also. Anyone know?

[DzM]

i'm wondering, though, if there isn't a distinction between the region settings of a dvd (the security codes) and PAL/NTSC formatting. PAL, as far as I know, has a setting of 25 frames per second whereas NTSC has a setting of 29.97 fps. there are other differences that i don't understand but aren't there two different problems here? one which has to do with security protection and the other which has to do with display of the image?

Now that would be my question also. Anyone know?

From here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD#DVD-Video

Though many resolutions and formats are supported, most consumer DVD-Video discs use either 4:3 or anamorphic 16:9 aspect ratio MPEG-2 video, stored at a resolution of 720×480 (NTSC) or 720×576 (PAL) at 24, 30, or 60 FPS. Audio is commonly stored using the Dolby Digital (AC-3) or Digital Theater System (DTS) formats, ranging from 16-bits/48kHz to 24-bits/96kHz format with monaural to 7.1 channel "Surround Sound" presentation, and/or MPEG-1 Layer 2. Although the specifications for video and audio requirements vary by global region and television system, many DVD players support all possible formats. DVD-Video also supports features like menus, selectable subtitles, multiple camera angles, and multiple audio tracks.

Short version:
DVDs from different regions may contain encoding that is optimized for NTSC, PAL, SECAM, etc. Most DVD players on the market don't care and translate the encoded signal to whatever is appropriate for their own output (NTSC, PAL, SECAM, etc).

Remember that the video data stored on the disk doesn't know anything about NTSC, PAL, or anything else. It's just an MPEG-2 video file with resolution and frame-rate set at a level that accommodates decoding into one signal or another rather well.

[philipchevron]

i'm wondering, though, if there isn't a distinction between the region settings of a dvd (the security codes) and PAL/NTSC formatting. PAL, as far as I know, has a setting of 25 frames per second whereas NTSC has a setting of 29.97 fps. there are other differences that i don't understand but aren't there two different problems here? one which has to do with security protection and the other which has to do with display of the image?

Now that would be my question also. Anyone know?

From here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD#DVD-Video

Though many resolutions and formats are supported, most consumer DVD-Video discs use either 4:3 or anamorphic 16:9 aspect ratio MPEG-2 video, stored at a resolution of 720×480 (NTSC) or 720×576 (PAL) at 24, 30, or 60 FPS. Audio is commonly stored using the Dolby Digital (AC-3) or Digital Theater System (DTS) formats, ranging from 16-bits/48kHz to 24-bits/96kHz format with monaural to 7.1 channel "Surround Sound" presentation, and/or MPEG-1 Layer 2. Although the specifications for video and audio requirements vary by global region and television system, many DVD players support all possible formats. DVD-Video also supports features like menus, selectable subtitles, multiple camera angles, and multiple audio tracks.

Short version:
DVDs from different regions may contain encoding that is optimized for NTSC, PAL, SECAM, etc. Most DVD players on the market don't care and translate the encoded signal to whatever is appropriate for their own output (NTSC, PAL, SECAM, etc).

Remember that the video data stored on the disk doesn't know anything about NTSC, PAL, or anything else. It's just an MPEG-2 video file with resolution and frame-rate set at a level that accommodates decoding into one signal or another rather well.

I see. Thank you DZM. Forward to standardization, I say.

[firehazard]

Short version:...

Darn it, I was doing really well with understanding that right up till it got to the first "NTSC".

My knowledge is obviously on the same level as the video data stored on the disk. Thanks for trying, though, DzM.

[DzM]

Short version:...

Darn it, I was doing really well with understanding that right up till it got to the first "NTSC".

My knowledge is obviously on the same level as the video data stored on the disk. Thanks for trying, though, DzM.

Imagine it like this:

You have a container of colored sugar water. You want to pour it into a glass.

If you bought this container of colored sugar water in the USofA (12oz, 355ml), then the volume of liquid may be slightly different than a similar container purchased in Japan (let's say 350ml). This means that they will both nearly fill a 500ml glass (leaving some room for ice), and that the end result is that you have a nice refreshing glass of colored sugar water. The end result was not unduly influenced by the slightly different volumes present in the original containers.

To complete the analogy, let's also pretend that the USofA container is not supposed to be able to be opened in Japan, and vice-versa, and that the price difference between the two containers is that the USofA one costs double the Japanese one. Your modern DVD player set to be region free is now a handy can-opener that really could not care less where the original container came from and will happily enable you to decant into any glass standard in your region.

Yay!

[Johan From Sweden]

Short version:...

Darn it, I was doing really well with understanding that right up till it got to the first "NTSC".

My knowledge is obviously on the same level as the video data stored on the disk. Thanks for trying, though, DzM.

Imagine it like this:

You have a container of colored sugar water. You want to pour it into a glass.

If you bought this container of colored sugar water in the USofA (12oz, 355ml), then the volume of liquid may be slightly different than a similar container purchased in Japan (let's say 350ml). This means that they will both nearly fill a 500ml glass (leaving some room for ice), and that the end result is that you have a nice refreshing glass of colored sugar water. The end result was not unduly influenced by the slightly different volumes present in the original containers.

To complete the analogy, let's also pretend that the USofA container is not supposed to be able to be opened in Japan, and vice-versa, and that the price difference between the two containers is that the USofA one costs double the Japanese one. Your modern DVD player set to be region free is now a handy can-opener that really could not care less where the original container came from and will happily enable you to decant into any glass standard in your region.

Yay!

You just have to be a Kindergarden teacher DzM

Nice Try but i still don´t understand