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Everyman is a King

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Post Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:57 pm

Ah, thanks! Haven't had the time to listen to all the remastered ones yet. *goes off to find CD*
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:03 pm

Maija wrote:Haven't had the time to listen to all the remastered ones yet.


Tough, isn't it, with all the new riches that are on offer? :-)
And personally I can't stop listening to the live CD.
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:07 pm

@Firehazard: I'm not complaining, though! I've had the live one, with "special focus" on Young Ned and Thousands..., spinning quite often here too.

Everyman is a king is definitely a great song (*clicks repeat*), but the vocals could've been a tad more audible.
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:33 pm

No, there's certainly no need for complaining, Maija. We are happy Pogues fans, and spoiled for choice just now. :-D
Agree with you on "Everyman..."
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Everyman Is A king Mystery Verse???

Post Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:05 am

On the lyrics for this song on this site, there contains a verse that seems to be missing from the song :
In the land of Republican automatons
Uncle Sam's forces so gung-ho and bronzed
Just waiting their orders from Washington
To fight for your peace and your freedom

any story behind this? Like why it's not in the song but on they lyrics page here? Just curious!


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Post Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:07 am

Well ... My records regarding how I got the lyrics go all hazy before September of 1999. All I know for sure is that Tim Ross sent me the lyrics.

A quick search of Teh Intarwebs shows me that this song was probably performed by Steeleye Span and others, and that this verse was in their versions:

http://www.prato.linux.it/~lmasetti/ant ... it&id=3340
http://www.theballadeers.com/Lyrics_E1.htm
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Re: Everyman Is A king Mystery Verse???

Post Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:28 am

Scott wrote:On the lyrics for this song on this site, there contains a verse that seems to be missing from the song :
In the land of Republican automatons
Uncle Sam's forces so gung-ho and bronzed
Just waiting their orders from Washington
To fight for your peace and your freedom

any story behind this? Like why it's not in the song but on they lyrics page here? Just curious!


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Co-writer Ron Kavana recorded his own version of the song around the same time as ours. The words you quote seem vaguely familiar, so they may appear in Ron's version.
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Re: Everyman Is A king Mystery Verse???

Post Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:11 pm

philipchevron wrote:
Scott wrote:On the lyrics for this song on this site, there contains a verse that seems to be missing from the song :
In the land of Republican automatons
Uncle Sam's forces so gung-ho and bronzed
Just waiting their orders from Washington
To fight for your peace and your freedom

any story behind this? Like why it's not in the song but on they lyrics page here? Just curious!


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Co-writer Ron Kavana recorded his own version of the song around the same time as ours. The words you quote seem vaguely familiar, so they may appear in Ron's version.

Yep, you are right Phil, this verse is on Ron's version on the LP "Think Like a Hero"
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Post Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:53 pm

Regardless of the mystery verse, Everyman Is A King is my favorite bonus track on the new remastered version of Peace and Love. The lyrics a dated, but the music and the atmosphere can't be beat. Terry Woods and Ron Kavana make a really good songwriting team; Young Ned of the Hill, need I say more.
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Post Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:38 pm

pogues22 wrote:Regardless of the mystery verse, Everyman Is A King is my favorite bonus track on the new remastered version of Peace and Love. The lyrics a dated, but the music and the atmosphere can't be beat. Terry Woods and Ron Kavana make a really good songwriting team; Young Ned of the Hill, need I say more.


I wouldn't say the lyrics are dated. They certainly refer to the time (perhaps) when the song was recorded -what was it 1989?- but I think all the words still carry on. Personally, I think we have another twenty years or so before we have to worry about duking it out with the Kremlin again, but its that American commitment to its own hubris that the song refers to.....I think. Works for me.
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Post Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:55 pm

Sorry, part of that post was a joke but it doesn't come across as such.
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Post Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:06 pm

pogues22 wrote:Regardless of the mystery verse, Everyman Is A King is my favorite bonus track on the new remastered version of Peace and Love. The lyrics a dated, but the music and the atmosphere can't be beat. Terry Woods and Ron Kavana make a really good songwriting team; Young Ned of the Hill, need I say more.

I agree with you about what great tracks they both are, though I think the music on Young Ned was more down to Darryl and Andy; I remember reading in an interview with one of the band (can't remember who) that Young Ned was really folky until those two changed the beat.
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Post Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:32 pm

cougar wrote:I wouldn't say the lyrics are dated. They certainly refer to the time (perhaps) when the song was recorded -what was it 1989?- but I think all the words still carry on. Personally, I think we have another twenty years or so before we have to worry about duking it out with the Kremlin again, but its that American commitment to its own hubris that the song refers to.....I think. Works for me.


Great post. I agree about the lyrics not being at all dated. Just ask Eric V sometime. :wink:
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Post Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:04 pm

Michaelo wrote:I agree with you about what great tracks they both are, though I think the music on Young Ned was more down to Darryl and Andy; I remember reading in an interview with one of the band (can't remember who) that Young Ned was really folky until those two changed the beat.

here's the interview you refer to:
poguetry.com wrote: "Songs are written, they are written very simply with a guitar or whatever. Everyone comes along and makes suggestions.... This song "Ned of the Hill," a slightly reggae/ska one. Well Terry Woods wrote that, and when he played it to us, it was a reverent sort of folk song, you know, with your finger in your ear. And Darryl and Andrew just started messing around and playing this back beat reggae/ska rhythm and it just clicked. So instantly this song was transformed... It's really strong. It's brilliant. It's got a blend of influences that no one's really done before and it works perfectly. That was totally instinctual on Darryl and Andrew's part. Terry Woods would never have thought of that in a thousand years. It's that sort of thing that makes our music very distinctive."

Darryl adds

"Most times it's easy to work with, because the material generally is very good. You know, when Shane, Jem, and Terry bring things along to rehearsal. It's easy to see the potential straightaway in just 3 chords. I mean, Shane can play you one chord and half a verse or something, but you can see straightaway the power... you know that you really got to work on it a bit. But it happens very quickly. Alot of people will struggle madly over a whole sort of tune, but it never actually happens. We tend to build them up like that, and ideas get put in as they go on."
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Post Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:12 pm

and while we are at it, I'll recommend everybody once again to get some more music by Ron Kavana in case you haven't already. 8)

And for more collaborations by Mr Woods and Kavana, watch out for "The Bucks - Dancin' to the ceili band" and Ron's "Home Fire" album.
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