Peace & Love or Hell's Ditch?

**Fri Dec 09, 2005 7:57 pm**

Hell´s Ditch is my choice. There are a few songs on Peace & Love that never makes my fave compilations, but imagine if NW3 had been included together with one or two traditionals. What an album it could have been.

Mats

**Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:57 pm**

Curse of love...I love it to bits.

Should be released as a single after Fairytale in the new year.

Its chart material.

**Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:14 pm**

Guest wrote:Curse of love...I love it to bits.

Should be released as a single after Fairytale in the new year.

Its chart material.

I agree. A terrific song.

"the night is long, I'm tired and weary, I don't know where this road will lead me..."

Website · **Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:55 am**

Going to have to go with "Peace and Love". You can't beat "Young Ned of the Hill" and "London you're a Lady".

**Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:20 am**

the_wild_rover wrote:Going to have to go with "Peace and Love". You can't beat "Young Ned of the Hill" and "London you're a Lady".

Any of Shane's songs are superior to Jem's in my opinion but I do still love Curse of Love.

**Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:09 am**

white city is a cracker

**Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:13 am**

Both fantastic albums. Very fond of Lorelai & Misty Morning, Albert Bridge. Been listening to those two a lot lately.

**Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:36 pm**

I still can't stop listening to the Peace and Love album. I think, as individual songwriters, this is the Pogues finest moment. The experimental songs flow really well with the album, and gave a nice fresh feeling from the Pogues, you know? It's like what the White album was to the Beatles; it is the album where the members grew as individual musicians, and wrote some truly terrific tunes of their own.

**Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:42 am**

philipchevron wrote:These two albums are each other's yin and yan and are best appreciated as a pair.

what a load of bollox!

**Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:08 pm**

The last two albums of the MacGowan era Pogues have always been rather polarized. Overall, most people prefer Hell's Ditch to Peace and Love, on the grounds that the album flows better. I still on outside, by saying I prefer Peace and Love to Hell's Ditch. I though Peace and Love was still more closer to The Pogues original sound. I think Hell's Ditch is just to wordly. Don't get me wrong I love the overall relaxed and pastoral vibe that surrounds the album. I wouldn't go as far as MacGowan does by disowning it, but Hell's Ditch does have some songs that are real throwaways. However, it also contains some tracks that are pure magic. Shane MacGowan seems in a global mood, and most of the songs that he wrote for this album draw on his experiences in Thailand (The Sunnyside of the Street, Sayonara, Summer In Siam, and House of the Gods,) and also Spain (Lorca's Novena and Hell's Ditch) Only Rain Street and The Ghost of a Smile remind me of The Pogues of old. All the songs that I listed however, are great, only Terry Wood's Rainbow Man and Six To Go and Jem Finer's Wake of the Medusa are the real throwaway tracks. I think Maidrin Rua is a fantastic, but far too short, instrumental. Also 5 Green Queens and Jean reminds me of Bob Dylan. Overall, it did take me a few listens to finally get into the vibe of Hell's Ditch, but once I did I started to enjoy the album. However, I'll still go on record and say that I thought Peace and Love was still all around better.

**Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:12 pm**

I love them both, and find a lot in both to enjoy.

But if you held a gun to my head and forced me to choose, I think I'd have to go with Peace and Love. It's close, mind you!

**Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:14 pm**

I think White City is one of the best Pogues songs ever. I also like how the zydeco influence on James' accordion playing and the bluegrass influence on Jem's banjo playing are less subtle on this album..

**Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:14 pm**

WHAT????? How on earth can you call this a throwaway track??? IMO it is one of the key tracks on that album!

scott

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: Hell's Ditch opinions?
and Jem Finer's Wake of the Medusa are the real throwaway tracks.

**Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:20 pm**

the punk band Face to Face did a great cover of sunnyside of the street

**Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:23 pm**

seamus_mcshanty1 wrote:the punk band Face to Face did a great cover of sunnyside of the street

Where are they from? Congrats on yer first post, by the way. :wink:

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