Peace & Love or Hell's Ditch?

**Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:41 pm**

Hell's Ditch by a long shot!

**Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:15 pm**

I didn't have those albums back in the summer. So, I ordered them together. Only Hell's Ditch came, though... and it wasn't even the remastered edition with the bonus material. Oh well. It's still brilliant. I think I'm going to try and get Peace and Love through Amazon... I'm just thankful I didn't have to pay for the albums BEFORE they shipped...

**Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:13 am**

What I don't like about Peace and Love is the production. The vocals are mixed too low and I don't like the sound of the drums on this record. The snare is all over the place )Andrew's drumming is great as usual though). Considering what a great job Steve Lillywhite did with IISFFGWG, I was really disappointed with the production on P&L. Or am I misinterpreting the function of a producer?

**Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:39 am**

Is it just my imagination, am I wrong... or is there a rather odd typo
on the Hell's Ditch re-issue?

**Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:03 am**

You'll have to narrow that down. I'm told there are many odd typos on the reissues.

**Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:18 am**

'Mudusa', (should've looked over old posts)I got it, thanks DzM.

**Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:42 am**

I figure that "Mudusa" must be the Brittish English spelling of the word.

**Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:52 am**

Or they're just hooked-on-phonics, like me!

**Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:40 pm**

I'm going to go for HellsDitch, but am going to give Peace and Love a few listens over the weekend, do love "The Boat Train"

**Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:28 pm**

Peace and Love, although most of it was written by other members of the group, was more close to the Pogues original sound than Hell's Ditch, and such songs as White City, Down All the Days, Boat Train, Young Ned of the Hill, Gartloney Rats, and London You're a Lady, could of all made appearances on earlier Pogues albums. Hell's Ditch, has more of a worldly vibe to it, being that Shane drew most of his influences from his time in Thailand.

Overall, remember Shane had embraced acid house rock, by the time the Pogues recorded Peace and Love, so that would explain the jazz influence throughout. Even though Shane disowns most of Hell's Ditch, it was still a very good album. But, Peace and Love still reminds me more of the Pogues of the old, so my vote is Peace and Love

**Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:04 pm**

Me thinks that the band didnt have enough good material for two albums at that time.If Peace and Hells had been incorporated into a single album it would have been a stormer.
White City,Young Ned,Misty Morning,Down All The Days,Lorelei,Gartloney Rats,Boat Train,London You,re a Lady,Sunnyside,Sayonara,Ghost of a Smile,Hells Ditch,Summer,Rain Street, Medusa.
What an album that would have been.
Theres no doubt that the genius was still there during that period.

**Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:17 pm**

From Peace and Love, I think "Night Train to Lorca" is a highly underrated song. The horn section is phenominal.

**Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:33 pm**

Peace and Love has some brilliant songs on it, but I prefer Hells Ditch, it's produced better.

**Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:41 pm**

only recently got them because shane always slags em but hes mental. there great albums much easier on the ear, more chilled out, than the first two better music even if it is progressive!!!

**Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:23 pm**

MultipleMike wrote:From Peace and Love, I think "Night Train to Lorca" is a highly underrated song. The horn section is phenominal.

Agreed Mike. One of the underrated gems from Finer's pen. I like his songs as well, Curse of Love & Bastard Landlord being my faves by his pen alone.

Peace & Love or Hell's Ditch?

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Both albums are unique in their own way

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